Mirror Scrying, Mediumship, and Paranormal Investigation w/ Third Eye Paranormal | Ghost City Podcast

They’re filming a wholesome food show about local bakeries, and then two weeks later they’re back on camera helping people untangle real ghost stories. That contrast is exactly why this conversation with Third Eye Paranormal works so well. We sit down with Kim, Amy, and Chelsea to talk about what they actually do when the lights go down, the gear comes out, and someone decides to stare into a mirror on purpose.

We get specific about mirror scrying and trance mediumship: what it feels like in the body, what they claim to see in the reflection, and why intention is the difference between a focused practice and feeling like something is happening to you at random. We also tackle the skeptical questions head-on, including how they sanity-check experiences, why confirmation often arrives at the end of a case, and how they balance curiosity with safety by staying grounded and working as a team.

Then we go down the rabbit holes listeners love: thrifting for haunted objects, psychometry, “haunted doesn’t mean evil,” and what a spell candle is when you strip away the internet panic and focus on intention and symbolism. There’s also a haunted Airbnb moment, the name “Greg” repeating in real time, and even a detour into Bigfoot and the Bridgewater Triangle because paranormal conversations never stay in one lane for long.

If you’re into paranormal investigation, mediumship, mirror scrying, haunted antiques, EVPs, and the real-life boundaries that keep it all manageable, you’ll get a lot out of this one. Subscribe to the Ghost City Podcast, share it with a friend who loves the strange, and leave a review with the one part you can’t stop thinking about.

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Transcript

Cold Open On Seeing Faces Morph

Amy Murphy 0:00

We all have different abilities, and yet we all have sometimes the same abilities. And how we come up with things are sometimes the same, sometimes different. But for myself, uh, I guess, you know, if I go into a mirror, I will connect with some. They show like my face transforms almost, it takes on characteristics. I can see their face kind of morphing into my face.

Meet The Hosts And Third Eye

Tim Nealon 0:28

All right, guys, we are back with the next episode of the Ghost City Podcast. Uh, as you know, I'm your least favorite host, uh Tim. And we are here today, or I am here. Well, actually, we are here because Carter's with me. Um so so before we begin, Paul is not here today, folks. And I know that you know, Paul is usually your favorite part of the episode. Paul is actually attending a family event this week, which is very strange because it's like Monday through Wednesday or something, which I think is a that's a very weird time to have a family event. It should be on the weekend.

Carter Simoneaux 1:02

Get in when you can get in, you know.

Tim Nealon 1:04

Yeah, but like and I was telling Carter this before we got on air. It feels like that's very like cult-ish. Like every time somebody's like, I'm at a family retreat, I'm like, oh, is it in Montana or Idaho?

Carter Simoneaux 1:15

Um look, I stopped questioning the the makeup and the patterns of the the Italians.

Tim Nealon 1:20

Yeah, yeah, he is Italian. I think it's something mob related. All right, ladies, so uh now that we got that out of the way, third eye paranormal. We got shit, we rehearsed this like five times. Kim. Hey Amy, Amy, yes, and Chelsea. We got Kim, Amy, and Chelsea, otherwise known as CAC, uh joining us today on the podcast. So thank you. Thank you for uh stopping by, ladies. So uh so we're you guys are not in your normal podcasting arena right now, right? You guys are kind of on the road doing something. I think I got the.

Kim Moser 1:59

That's right. We are on the road. We're filming a TV show right now.

Tim Nealon 2:02

Uh-oh. Everybody's filming a TV show. Um what's it? Do I have to ask what it's about?

Kim Moser 2:10

Yeah, you can ask what it's about. It's uh nothing paranormal related, however, that is going to change in well, I didn't ask.

Tim Nealon 2:17

Hold on. Um, so what's the new TV show about?

Kim Moser 2:21

Well, it is about uh local bakeries, restaurants. Amy's our host. So she sits down with local business owners and she gets to make the food and taste the food and find out why their business is so great. And it's called Home Sweet Home.

Tim Nealon 2:37

Oh, I was it almost sounds like a ghoul-ish version of some Guy Fieri show. Do you know Guy Fieri, that guy with like the crazy hair that does like diners drives in and the diner drives dives? It almost sounds like a haunted version of that.

Kim Moser 2:50

Um well, if it was paranormal related, it totally would be. However, we're moving into a paranormal show in about two weeks. Yeah.

Tim Nealon 2:59

Oh, wait, so this is not paranormal. It's just bakeries and stuff.

Amy Murphy 3:04

Yes.

Tim Nealon 3:05

Which, by the way, sounds awesome. So a lot of people don't know this about me, but I have a dream. And that dream is that one day I would open up a bakery. Um and it's true. Like, I'm not actually trying to be funny. I know I started out very Martin Luther King Jr. there. Um, but like so one of my my biggest um vices in life are donuts and pastries. Like, I can live off pastries all the time. Um but that but this is a podcast not about me. Here we go again. I'm gonna fuck up this one. Um I totally fucked up the last podcast.

Kim Moser 3:38

We'll listen, it's okay. You're doing great.

Tim Nealon 3:40

Why thank you? This is my first time. Um actually we do pretty damn well on this podcast. I don't know how. Um, so like so what do you like? Why are you filming a show about bakeries and restaurants and all this other stuff? Like, like why?

Amy Murphy 3:56

Because we were hired to do it.

Tim Nealon 3:58

Oh, that's a good reason. I thought that was true.

Amy Murphy 3:59

You were so into this stuff. I absolutely love baking through and through. I I just I'm obsessed. I I don't do it by like trade or anything. Um, but I've worked with the producer in other movies, and when he came up with this concept for the show, he was like, Would you like to host it? And I said, Well, of course. So this is actually season seven that we're filming right now. So we've been doing it for seven seasons.

Tim Nealon 4:25

And you've been a part of this for a really fun show. So you've been a part of this for seven seasons.

Amy Murphy 4:30

Yes, I've been the host for seven seasons. Yeah.

Tim Nealon 4:33

That must make your ego very big. How do people stand being around you?

Amy Murphy 4:37

It's not very big. I don't think so. Do you do you can't get these guys beside me? They're great. Kim's our director. Chelsea operates the camera, which is really nice. So it's a lot of fun working with your besties.

Tim Nealon 4:50

Is it though?

Amy Murphy 4:52

Yeah. Yes, it's actually amazing. We never want to be apart,

Filming A Food Show On The Road

Amy Murphy 4:55

so this is perfect.

Tim Nealon 4:56

Oh. See, I have a rule. I don't hire friends or family to work for any of my companies because we're gonna end up hating each other. Um, so I I I I mean, kudos to you guys. You guys must have figured something out that I can't. Like even Carter over there, I can't fucking stand the guy.

Carter Simoneaux 5:11

Paul and I have been friends for like 20 plus years, and we're still going strong despite having to, you know, do Bigfoot documentaries and ghost investigations and things like that.

Tim Nealon 5:19

Well, I think the reason that you guys are going strong is because of the Bigfoot documentaries and stuff like that. That's right. To be fair. Um The pain unites us. That's true. I don't actually hate Carter. I'm just kidding. Um, no, kudos to you guys. But now you said here shortly the shows are going to have a paranormal paranormal Jesus. Now we're gonna say, now we're gonna do this again. Tim can't speak. Now your shows are gonna have a paranormal theme going forward, right? So uh what's the deal with that?

Kim Moser 5:46

Well, we are actually going into our second season of another Canadian TV show. It's called Haunted Heart and Soul. Yeah. And so we, the three of us, plus um our friend Ryan Sprague, we are the hosts of the show, and we're kind of the acting mediums. Ryan goes and he finds out the historical information. And it's a lighter side, I want to say, of the paranormal. So we find like a lot of meaningful stories. We connect some dots with some previous ancestors, we find out who's haunting people's businesses or homes, and we just start pulling like names and stuff out of the sky, especially this one. Put this one in a mirror and do some mirror scrying, and she gets some really interesting information. So um, at the end of the show, we sit down with the homeowner or business owner and we tell our side of the story, and a lot of the times it makes sense for them. So it's a heartfelt paranormal show.

Tim Nealon 6:40

Well, that's good because there's not too many heartfelt paranormal TV shows on TV right now. They're all about demons. I don't know if you guys know that or not. There's a demon everywhere. No, there really are. There are demons everywhere, totally. I believe it. Um I really don't. Um, so so it kind of sounds like like you guys just you know say, hey, does anybody have any haunted locations? You go into them, you have fun, you look for ghosts, um, you play with a mirror, which we're gonna have to talk about in a minute, Chelsea, because I don't know about this mirror scribing thing. Um not saying it's BS. I'm just saying I don't understand it. So we're gonna have to get into that a little bit. Um, but I noticed that you said, you know, most of the time um you get results that make sense. That means that some of the times you get results that don't make sense, right?

Kim Moser 7:31

And a lot of the time they actually don't make sense until the very, very end of the show when you know we have that confirmation from the homeowner. Um, for example, there's this one that we did, and uh

Haunted Heart And Soul Explained

Kim Moser 7:45

Amy was connecting with a spirit of a man, and uh his name was Rob Bob Robert, and he did this like silly little wave kind of thing. Bob Robert, yeah.

Amy Murphy 7:58

And it makes sense for her at the time, but it was coming through like it was coming through jumbled. It was like Rob, Robert, Bubby, Bob. It was it was just coming, all these different like versions of Robert, and it was and then he did this little wave, like my hand started waving like this. And can you can share the rest?

Kim Moser 8:16

And it turns out that the homeowner's father was named Rob, and none of us knew that her last name and his last name is different, but about six people on our team had actually worked with him in the film industry previously. Right. And every time he'd show up at his daughter's house, he'd this silly little wave in the driveway. So I at the time it didn't make sense, but in the end it did.

Tim Nealon 8:41

And and and I'm assuming that this is like some sort of mediumship thing, right? That you're talking about.

Amy Murphy 8:47

Yes.

Tim Nealon 8:48

So yeah. So you're so you're a medium.

Amy Murphy 8:52

I I like to kind of, I guess, categorize myself as a trance medium. I go into like a trance state and it it's hard to really pinpoint and define yourself in this world. Uh, it really is, because we all have different abilities and yet we all have sometimes the same abilities and how we come up with things are sometimes the same, sometimes different. But for myself, uh, I guess you know, if I go into a mirror, I will connect with some. They show like my face transforms almost, it takes on characteristics. I can see their face kind of morphing into my face. Okay. Uh, sometimes I can see a background. Sometimes all of a sudden names come through or things just kind of come through to me. Um, sometimes I'll disconnect from the mirror, but they stay with me. And then things start happening after I go into like a trance, and then things just start happening when I'm outside of the mirror, like after I've been in the mirror. Sometimes I don't have to go in the mirror, and sometimes I just start wigging out in a car in a parking lot somewhere.

Kim Moser 9:52

Um, you can get like the shakes and shivers and stuff, and that's kind of the first sign that we know that she's connecting.

Tim Nealon 9:58

Wow.

Amy Murphy 9:59

I bet I bet uh you know Chelsea also is a medium and she connects same but different. Yeah, like we all have these abilities. It's strange. We're we have a lot to unpack tonight.

Tim Nealon 10:10

Yeah, I was I was gonna say I was gonna say you guys sound out sound like you're a lot of fun to hang out in public. Like, God forbid, you go into one of your trances. Yeah, and and well, I so are Canadian trances different than the ones like that happen here.

Kim Moser 10:24

I'm trying to like we say sorry a lot. I'm gonna be trance. We have to take a shot of maple syrup first. Really? And then we apologize to the spirits.

Tim Nealon 10:34

So you you mentioned like looking into a mirror, like you looked into the mirror, you know, and all these things.

Amy Murphy 10:38

Like what what what is it about the Usually it's a mirror, but I've uh scried in a window before. Um, actually, the very most recent, I just was lurking at you, remember, Kim? Oh, yeah. That happened when we were in Salem, actually. Yeah. So uh Kim's face just started morphing in front of me, and I was like, Kim, your face is changing into someone else's face, like fully just started changing into the person that we were connecting with. That was wild. That was new, that was a new, that was a new thing. You've also done it in a cemetery on a gravestone. That's right. A reflective gravestone. Yes, yes. A woman showed me her, she was rocking a baby, and I saw her rocking the baby on the gravestone. She was like showing me, it was like you're watching a moving picture, but it was in the grave, the reflective gravestone. It was wild.

Tim Nealon 11:24

So I'm just trying to make sure I understand this correctly. So you're seeing these images in the mirror like happening in front of you. Mm-hmm.

Kim Moser 11:32

That's yes. It's it's really fascinating for somebody, because I cannot do that. I cannot mirror scry at all. I've tried, it just doesn't work for me. But it's fascinating to see her and how real the images are for her. Because even when we were filming last season for Haunted Heart and Soul, she'd be like, Kim, do you not see this

Mirror Scrying And Trance Mediumship

Kim Moser 11:55

woman? And Kim, do you not see the whole mirror fogging up? And she's like desperately telling the truth to me. And I'm like, no, I wish I could see it, but I don't see it. I don't see what you're seeing. Do you remember the time though, Amy, when we both went in the mirror together and then we both saw each other's faces morph? That was something that was very new for both of us to do.

Amy Murphy 12:17

Yes, and we both tranced at the same time and we were rocking the in the boat, remember? We both started trancing. Yes.

Tim Nealon 12:23

So the idea is that that you're looking into a mirror and you're seeing images almost like uh like a medium would, maybe, but you're actually seeing them like take place in the mirror itself. I just want to make sure I understand this correctly.

Amy Murphy 12:37

Yes, and it's not always the exact same, it's not an exact like science where it's oh, it's the same every time. A lot of times, yes, my face starts changing into who I'm looking at. And so I'm looking at them, but it's me. My reflection is them looking back at me a lot of the times. Um, and then sometimes, you know, they move around, they show me a background, I start seeing further into the mirror, like where they're at. Like, oh, it's nighttime. I see trees, I see a street light, I see, you know, oh, they're looking at me through the window back there, and I'm looking in the mirror here. Like I see them in behind me, or like all kinds of different things have happened. Um, but I just feel like I know that it in spirit world, mirrors are so taboo, and people talk about mirrors, and I get it, but I feel like it's become my strongest gift. When I'm in a mirror, it's insane. The things I see, and I feel completely safe because I know people say it's portals and it's bad. And but I never go into a mirror without my girls with me. Like they're always grounding me, they keep me safe. We've had some scary encounters. Um, we've also had great encounters, but um, I'm not scared of it for the weirdest, you know, I'm not scared of the mirror at all. So when people kind of try to say that's bad, don't do it, I'm like, well, if it didn't feel good or if I didn't feel safe, I wouldn't do it.

Tim Nealon 13:59

I, you know, I yeah, no, I I I get it. So and and please, please don't take this the wrong way because I I actually do not mean it in a bad way. Um but I don't know how to ask the question without sounding like I mean it in a bad way. Like, did have you ever thought like there's just something wrong with you? Like like like in your head, like that you look into a mirror and you see things and like you're thinking that you know they're paranormal, but like maybe you're just crazy. Please understand I am not meaning it like I think you're crazy.

Amy Murphy 14:34

When I intentionally do it, I don't just kind of look into a mirror and then start seeing stuff randomly. I actually purposely am looking for it. So I'm not crazy because I'm doing it on purpose. I mean, that could be crazy, I guess.

Skeptic Questions And Intentional Practice

Amy Murphy 14:50

I mean, it might be crazy to do it, but it's the intention behind it is you know, when I'm going in, I'm sitting down, I'm focusing, I'm concentrating. It's no different than any other medium saying, is there anybody in this room with us? Make a sound or come to me, give me a vision. I'm just saying, come to me in the mirror. I can see you if you want to show yourself, you know, like it's in more intentional. Okay. Um, when I'm getting ready in the days, and you know, every day I don't go looking for it. So I kind of close myself off on the day-to-day, but I just mirror scry with intention. Okay. So that's a difference.

Tim Nealon 15:24

So yeah, that made that made that makes sense to me because you know, most of the time if somebody came up to you and said, I see things in a mirror, you would just assume like like you need to go see a psychiatrist.

Amy Murphy 15:35

Oh, yeah, maybe, maybe, yeah.

Tim Nealon 15:38

But the way you but the difference is you're you're actually doing this, like you said, with intention. Like my intention.

Amy Murphy 15:43

Yes.

Tim Nealon 15:44

And it's not every time you look into a mirror, it's only when you're looking into a mirror with that intention that you're seeing these things. Correct. Okay. And the reason I I asked it that way is because I know there's gonna be comments because you know how mean people can be online where they're like, these women are just crazy. So I that that that's why I was like, I I promise I wasn't asking it in a negative manner. I just know that's gonna come up in the comments.

Amy Murphy 16:04

So it's it's not people don't understand it, and it's a weird world. The whole paranormal world is it leaves yourself open up for that because it's hard to understand and you can't really prove anything. So we could be making all this up. No one knows, right?

Tim Nealon 16:18

Like all right, now you guys got me.

Amy Murphy 16:20

You know, people have their opinions. What's that?

Tim Nealon 16:22

I said now you guys have me wondering are they all making are they just making this all up, Carter? Um, who's to say? Yeah. Well, you are kind of like the movie star. Uh no, I think out of control.

Amy Murphy 16:34

No, but yeah, no, it's the whole paranormal world, I find, is like open to interpretation for people to, if they want to those who will believe will believe, and those who don't don't. It goes for anything in life. It goes for any topic you want to talk about. We're not gonna talk about politics or religion, but same thing, right?

Tim Nealon 16:48

Right. Now, is this is this a skill like anybody can do? Like so the the mere scrying, like is it uh you know, I I know that like a lot of people think like mediums, you know, you're you're kind of there there are two camps, it seems like they're you're either born with it or it's a skill that you can develop over your lifetime. So if somebody like me right now, the only thing when I look at when I look into a mirror, like I said, is this mug, but is this something that like I can learn, or is this something that just kind of you you noticed one day where you're like, holy shit, like I when I look into a mirror with this intention, I'm actually seeing this whole other world. Or am I just kind of screwed because I can't do it to begin with? Like I have no chance.

Amy Murphy 17:28

Kelsey might be able to answer her version, but my version was the first time I went into a mirror. I was with Kim on the original haunted. I never knew what it was before, and we were doing an episode of the original haunted show that we were on before this show. And the director said to put me in the mirror, and I'm like, I don't know what that is. They sat me down, they just said they set it all up, and I started looking in the mirror, and my face

How The Ability First Unlocked

Amy Murphy 17:55

started changing, and I started seeing a woman, and then I started seeing all kinds of things, and I was describing what I was seeing, and I think that was the first time I like fully channeled. Remember, after her, there was all kinds of things that happened in that episode.

Tim Nealon 18:08

Right.

Amy Murphy 18:09

Um, that was the first was a first time for me. So I know that I was born with certain things like mediumships, like uh abilities, but that one in particular, scrying and kind of channeling and all the things that were happening on the show, that was just all unlocked. That kind of episode for me is when it all started, like this one here. Right. And she's watched it grow over the years.

Tim Nealon 18:34

Kim's like a proud parent watching over her child. She is develop her skills. Yeah.

Chelsey Lacelle 18:39

She was actually the proud parent of both of us for mere scrying because Kim is the one who got me into it and learning that I also have that ability. And I can't do it.

Tim Nealon 18:49

Yeah, I was gonna say, like, are do you guys sometimes get angry with Kim? Like, God damn it, Kim, like you turned us into these little mirror reading monsters, and now we can't stop. Like, like I feel like there has to be some animals.

Chelsey Lacelle 19:09

Yeah, I think that's our secret.

Tim Nealon 19:12

I think that you guys ruined them forever. Um, because probably once you learn how to do it, you can't undo it, right?

Chelsey Lacelle 19:18

I mean, you can you can like tune it out or turn it off, I guess, but it's always gonna be there.

Tim Nealon 19:24

Right. And that's Kim's fault.

Kim Moser 19:26

It is Kim's fault.

Tim Nealon 19:27

Yeah. Damn it, Kim. Um Well, I I guess, you know, if it so, so I you know, without going like too in depth here, like I absolutely believe in ghosts. I absolutely believe in in you know, this this other you know, beyond the veil kind of thing. So I think anything that allows you to see into it more is a good thing. As long as you like you said, you can turn it off from time to time. Because if every time I you looked into a mirror, you know, something happened, then you would get to a point where you're like, I'm gonna kill Kim. Um but but if you can turn it off, I guess that that makes it okay. Now, now when you're doing the mirror scrying, and I gotta be very careful saying that now because I'm embarrassed, scrying, um like like what are some of the things like tell me some good stories that that have come out of it? Like, what are you know, you're on a case, you're you're doing investigation, and I'm assuming you guys do more like the traditional ghost investigating, paranormal investigating stuff too, maybe with like voice recorders and and all that good stuff too. Um, so like what are some really good insights or really good cases where the mere scrying has really helped you put together the pieces at one of these hauntings? You know, either Chelsea or actually you in the middle, we've talked to a lot. Um, let let Chelsea answer a question for God's sakes. Um quit trying to hog the mic.

Kim Moser 20:46

Yeah. Amy's a hogger. I'm told there's actually a time where we actually investigated my parents' haunted house.

Tim Nealon 20:55

Uh-huh.

Kim Moser 20:55

And I knew of some spirits there because I've seen them a couple times, but they didn't fully like come through to me because I tune out a lot at my parents' house. It's like my scapegoat. Um so we threw her in the mirror and she was actually able to see the man who died of a heart attack and had the fridge crushed on him in the kitchen. Which of course Amy did not know.

Tim Nealon 21:16

So he died into this house. So that sounds like something from that sounds like something from like Bob's burgers. Did you ever see the episode of Bob's burgers?

Kim Moser 21:23

Yeah, it was like that show.

Tim Nealon 21:25

It really does. Like where Teddy pulled the refrigerator down on him. You see that?

unknown 21:29

Yeah.

Kim Moser 21:29

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, Amy goes into these completely blind. Like we don't tell her anything about the locations. We just love to see what we can pull out of her. And as soon as I saw her like channel, Larry is his name.

Tim Nealon 21:44

Okay.

Kim Moser 21:45

It just kind of helped us really confirm his story and kind of like get it out there. And it just it felt really at ease because after she had channeled Larry and kind of got his story out, like, I don't feel him anymore at the house. And I feel like it actually helped him. Like not fully move on, but just kind of go where he needs to go.

Tim Nealon 22:07

That is very interesting. Um, but it is. No, I felt bad because I said Amy was hogging the mic, and now I felt bad because I see your face, and I wanted to know that I really did not think you were hogging the mic. I was just messing with it.

Amy Murphy 22:21

I didn't try to mic, I was just a Christian.

Tim Nealon 22:23

No, I was just I was totally messing with you. Take nothing I say seriously. So, like how so he he had a heart attack, and like I'm imagining I'm like, you know, uh, and then he like reached for the fridge and like pulled it over on himself or something.

Kim Moser 22:36

Yeah, you got it. Yeah, just like that.

Tim Nealon 22:38

So, so what would you say to somebody who, you know, they're listening to us talking about mirror scrying and all this other stuff? And you have to be honest, there is an aspect of it that sounds a little like like fairy tale-ish, right? Like a little, I don't want to use the word crazy or anything like that. So, what would you say to people who are like, nah, um, these women are crazy. They they they can't do that. That's not even possible. You know, not that I'm asking you to prove that it's real, but what would you say to somebody who because I'm sure you've got that question before?

Kim Moser 23:05

Absolutely. I think um I've always approached the paranormal with uh not as I don't want to say skeptical mind, but a critical mind. Um I'm always the type of person who's who absolutely needs to find out how things work from the bottom up. Um, and you know, there are there have been times when I have worked with other psychic mediums um and I have not believed it. And I think in this circumstance in particular, with these two and mirror scrying, um, I know them outside of the paranormal. As you know, we're working on a show right now that has nothing to do with it. Um, and just like, you know, we're all very normal people who live very normal lives, we're all in committed relationships, have families, all that type of thing. And I think people are honestly surprised when they find out this whole paranormal aspect to our lives because we are all very critical thinkers. Um, I think I've even had a conversation with Chelsea before when she wasn't on Haunted Heart and Soul yet. And I was like, I don't know how Amy does it, but like I can't figure out how she's getting these names. Like I'm doing some research on my own, right, which I'm not revealing to her. And she's like making me tear up and cry. And there are other people on our team who are, of course, skeptics, camera guys. And they're like, Kim, when we saw you cry, we knew that that was real. Um, and I've had my own experiences too with dreams, like very coincidental um things that I shouldn't know about people who have passed away. I've had a lot of visitation dreams.

Tim Nealon 24:52

Okay.

Kim Moser 24:52

And I would have always said, yeah, you can probably explain that away, but until I had my very own circumstance that I couldn't explain. And I will sit with things for weeks trying to understand how it works. And then I was like, you know what? I've done years of research reading books, and the dream that I had about my grandmother when she passed away, like within the 15-minute mark of her actually passing away, having a visitation dream, I am like, that is really coincidental and I just can't quite figure it out. So um, I mean, that doesn't, there's no way to prove any of this stuff, right? But from my own personal experience, all I can say is don't knock it until you have your own experience, and then you can't figure it out, and then you have to sit with it, and then you're like, okay, maybe it is a possibility.

Tim Nealon 25:43

Don't knock it until you try it. I've heard that about so many things in life. Uh, and I still haven't tried most of them, and I'm not going to. Um, no, I I I well, I think that the the place that you're describing, kind of where you're at, is an important place to get to with the paranormal thing. It's almost like you don't care, you're not trying to prove it to anybody. You're almost just doing it for you. And and I think that that's good. Not that I am some, you know, paranormal guru of of everything, and I should know how people feel as they go through it. But I I have found that I enjoy interacting with people who have that attitude way more than I do than with people who are think that they have to prove it to you. Like I I don't need you to prove it to me. Like it it the the journey really should just be about you anyways, you know, because at the end of the day, I mean what are the chances me or you guys are really gonna convince somebody goes surreal just by talking? I mean it's it's almost zero. Um but yeah, they just have to do it themselves. So I'm gonna go buy a mirror and start looking to it into it a lot, Amy. Um so I I mean I need to. I look like shit and I need to start paying more attention to how I look. Um, so like I'm I'm I'm totally kidding. I'm I'm beautiful Carter over there. Actually, when I walked into days, yeah.

Kim Moser 26:56

Do we need to do daily affirmations with you in the mirror before we do mirror scrying there, Tim? So no, no, no.

Tim Nealon 27:02

So so actually most of my humor is self-deprecating. That just is like where I live, self-deprecating humor. I I don't mean most of what I say. Um most. And Paul and Carter's over there like well, you should.

Carter Simoneaux 27:20

Should have hopped on the fitness challenge with Paul and I. You guys are doing a fitness challenge? Yeah, winner gets 300 bucks, whoever can lose the most weight between uh May and August. And body fat percentage and waistline. Oh, I'm not doing anything for $300.

Tim Nealon 27:33

Fuck you guys. Um I'm rich, bitch. Um no, I'm not. I'm really just who said that was that Dave Chappelle. Yeah. I'm rich, bitch. Ah, good. That was when he was funny. Um, so you know, when you guys are going to these locations, you know, I I I think that you just describe the mission statement pretty well, like wrapped up in in and tied. Like this is kind of why we're doing it. But for you, Amy and you, Chelsea, like like what are you guys kind of getting out of this, the all these investigations you're going to? And like, why are you guys doing it?

Kim Moser 28:09

Honestly, it gives a lot of like reassurance that we're not crazy. You know, like doing these investigations together, channeling into our mediumship, channeling into who we actually are as people individually and collectively. Like it just boosts your confidence in ways you didn't know you needed boosted.

Amy Murphy 28:27

It's good validation too, because um,

Thrifting For Haunted Objects

Amy Murphy 28:30

you know, when I see things, feel things, hear things, and then she's hearing feeling, or you see, and like when we are all connecting and getting all these answers, I think it's really validating.

Tim Nealon 28:43

Right.

Amy Murphy 28:44

And I really like that. Right. Um, you know, and you don't feel alone, you know, when you're doing it. And I find that the more we do it, uh, each investigation gets better and better, and different things happen, uh, different skills unlock, like next level things just happen.

Kim Moser 29:02

We're doing this like hive mind thing recently, and it's really weird. So also when we decided that we're gonna come up with the name for the paranormal group, Third Eye Paranormal, Chelsea was away in Ireland, and we were like, we probably Amy and I were like, We promise we're we're gonna wait until Chelsea gets back before we come up with a name.

Amy Murphy 29:19

Right.

Kim Moser 29:19

But I had this like name just drill through my head, and Amy had already been doing like marketing with this one particular name. And so I messaged her on this long drive one day and I was like, I know we're waiting until Chelsea gets back, but third eye paranormal, that's it. And she sent me a voice note and she was screeching and she was like, Cam, how did you know that? She's like, I've already done all this marketing and like this website. And so I was like, okay, that's validating. And then of course Chelsea chimes in when she gets back from Ireland and she's like, I'm getting three, I'm getting third, I'm getting like, and so we were kind of like we were inching towards it, so we're like, okay, maybe there is this hive mind thing going on. But it happens like every single day. We're like reading each other's mind.

Tim Nealon 30:01

So the third eye thing, I mean, the the idea of the third eye, that's the this, right? Like this idea of like the the eye that can see the unseen. Am I am I thinking about that the right way? Correct. Now, does this third eye help you with your thrifting after efforts? Because I read your bio, I read all that stuff that was like and apparently this whole thrifting thing is a big deal with you guys, right?

Kim Moser 30:26

We love the thrift gods. They are so good to us.

Tim Nealon 30:30

I actually thought that was very interesting because without assuming too much, because I I have not had the time to dive into any of any thrifting videos. Um, but the idea is like you guys are l going to thrift shops, antique shops, and stuff like that. And you're you're not only enjoying the thrifting process, but you're also looking for objects that might have a paranormal attachment to them as well. Is that what you ladies are doing? I keep saying you guys, you ladies.

Kim Moser 30:56

Um Yeah, it's exactly what we're doing. We're focusing on haunted items, but also showing the not haunted items as well.

Tim Nealon 31:04

Oh yeah. So what what are some of the cool items that you find thrifting? Because I think of like when I think of thrifting, I think, oh like look, we found like lead glasses and like um like those old signs that they sell it cracker barrel. Like, so like what what are the things that you guys find when you're thrifting that are that are really cool?

Kim Moser 31:25

Um, so we actually have one item right behind us that we currently thrifted. Also, too, we want to clarify that haunted does not mean bad. A lot of people think that because we label something haunted, it automatically means it's a demon or something negative. But for example, the lady that we have behind us, our sweet Dolores, is a very sweet haunted doll. It's got good energy to her.

Tim Nealon 31:48

Uh-huh.

Kim Moser 31:49

And the other thing, too, is that we're not necessarily saying that it's a um like an active haunt. Okay. We're just doing like psychometry on some of these items, meaning we're holding them, we're sensing, we're feeling energy. Um, and you know, sometimes we're brave enough to bring some of these things home, like like this one right here. Um, but yeah, like there's oftentimes we'll just be in an aisle of a thrift store and like this sort of like wave of nausea or dizziness will overcome us. And we just kind of like start to narrow down, like, okay, what is it on the end of this aisle that's making us feel best this way? And I know that even on our last road trip, we are all saying, like, there there's something going on, like right here on the side of our head, it's like a pain. What is that? And then, you know, Amy would come around the corner and she's like, guys, my head hurts. What's going on? And we're like, oh, weird that you just said that. Okay.

Tim Nealon 32:42

Right.

Kim Moser 32:42

Um, but but in terms of like kind of cool items, like, I don't know, I'm not like super into haunted dolls, yet I'm the one that has two haunted dolls at my house right now. Right. Um, but there's a really weird piece that we have. Um, actually, I can go get it because we travel with it because it's fun. Um, it's uh like an artist rendition of a candlestick. So it's like all this melted metal. Yeah. And uh there was a spell candle in it. So like we knew that someone had put a lot of intention and a lot of energy and maybe did some spell work with it. But literally for us, like vibrate vibrates with energy. It's really intense. Let me go get that. And the cool thing too is like a lot of people on the video in the comments also were like, I feel the energy from that so intensely. Like other people were validating it and feeling the same things we were too.

Tim Nealon 33:34

So, so the spell candle itself. So you found this this object, it had a spell candle in it.

Amy Murphy 33:41

What yeah, yeah, and the lady there was a lady that walked by us in the when we were thrifting it. Uh-huh. This lady, we'd never seen her before. She walks by, she goes, That thing is haunted. Like, and we were just like, That's funny because we were just talking about that thing that's sitting there. Like, it was crazy. Even just people in the store were picking up on it. And then when we posted it, the comments were going crazy with people going, I feel nauseous when that came up on the screen. It's powerful. Wait, do you see it?

Kim Moser 34:08

Wait, I don't actually have it.

Amy Murphy 34:10

Oh, Kimmy lied.

Kim Moser 34:12

Kimmy, she likes to lie. But I do have I do have another item. I have um binoculars here.

Tim Nealon 34:21

Okay.

Kim Moser 34:22

And when you look through these binoculars, carrying quinid and energy. Even my like voice is cracking, just holding them right now. Anyone else want to give it a whirl? So they're fun.

Tim Nealon 34:32

So I'm assuming that when you look through them, you see really big ghosts up close.

Amy Murphy 34:38

Oh, scared me. I saw something over there.

Tim Nealon 34:41

Yeah, see how it works? I told you.

Amy Murphy 34:43

Um that's just him.

Tim Nealon 34:46

Yeah, that's just me. So, so

Spell Candles And Intention Work

Tim Nealon 34:50

so what it is so well before I ask you about the spell candle, right? Um, and we'll get we'll get to the binoculars in a second. What I was gonna ask though is what is a spell candle and how did you know that it was a spell candle? Because I don't know what a spell candle is. Um, so if you can maybe explain that to me in the audience.

Kim Moser 35:09

Yeah, so a spell candle is pretty much just it could be like a witch or it could just be someone with the intentions, but you have just any sort of candle and it's used in spell work. So I don't know how to fully explain it other than they're usually this a specific color and each of the colors have a specific intention as well. This one had a red candle inside of it. So it's pretty much used as an intention candle in some sort of ritual or spell, and it no like red is usually for love or compassion or something along those lines. So it just had a lot of energy to it. Someone was trying to get that ex back. Like the X is like the movie Obsession.

Tim Nealon 35:49

Oh, oh, oh, okay. Never mind. No, I no, I'm I'm kind of on board with this idea of the intention candle. So this is gonna sound like a joke, but this is true, and this just shows you how ridiculous men can be sometimes. This is actually a true story. So I bought my wife a candle, and on the candle, it said I'm not trying to be funny, this is really what it says. When I light this wick, it's time to suck my right.

Kim Moser 36:14

Yeah, that's an intention candle.

Tim Nealon 36:16

I know, I know the water right there. And I was really I so I'm trying to think. I don't know that it worked that well. Um you need more intention in it. Trust me, I put all the intentions. I put all the intention I could into that candle. And uh he's gotta talk to his wife. Yeah, that too. No, my wife loves me. And but no, it then there was another one too, but I don't remember what it was, but I remember that one. But like, so all joking aside, like the idea behind a spell candle can be any candle. It's really the intention that somebody puts into the candle as they're burning it, or like I know I'm asking dumb questions, it's because I am dumb about this. I don't I don't know.

Kim Moser 36:57

No, it's not a dumb question at all, at all. So, pretty much another example of that could be like, for example, on the first of every single month, I will light a green candle. So I like green because it signifies money and I want good wealth. So I do a green candle and I put cinnamon around it because cinnamon helps enhance and kind of brings in that spiritual power more. So it's just all like each color has a different like symbol to like behind it. And then it all depends on what you put in the candle and you have to believe it for it to work. But that's just like any prayer, too. Like any prayer, any spell, it's all about intention, right?

Tim Nealon 37:32

It is true. That is about intention. And I also like the month, the color green for the exact same reason. There's the re reason our logo is green, and I'm not gonna lie, it was because I wanted a lot of money.

Amy Murphy 37:44

Um that's you're doing it, you're manifesting right there. Like you already kind of have that that's color magic right there.

Tim Nealon 37:50

No, that's 120-hour work weeks for the past 14 years. That's what that is. Um that was my intention to work until I hate my life. Um, I don't hate my life. I'm just kidding. Um, but but how did you know it was a spell candle? Like, because there was no there, you said it could be any candle. So was it just the like the feeling you got from it, or was there something else?

Kim Moser 38:11

Yeah, this the second we picked it up right away. I remember you had it first, and then her face on it was like like you could just see. So then I went over to it, and right away when I touched it, I was like, that's been used in spell work. Like it just like right away came to me. Right. And then the more we looked into it, the more we like observed the object, we were seeing more signs of it. And as we were holding it in the aisle, we also got validation from just a stranger pushing a cart. She goes, That thing's haunted. And we're like, Oh, yeah, we know.

Tim Nealon 38:43

It's always great to get validation from strangers.

Kim Moser 38:46

Um I love it, you know, it's great.

Tim Nealon 38:50

So does so the the the I don't know how much more I can go into candles, but I'm actually just curious. So so you pick this up and and you said it was and it magically disappeared from wherever you guys are at right now, which I think is the most creepy part because it'll appear in like 20 minutes, like right where you where you looked.

Kim Moser 39:07

No, if you know me, you know I lose anything, whether it's keys, cell phone, tripod. I'm just the master at losing all things.

Tim Nealon 39:15

That's why you gotta put them all in your pocket. If you put them in your pocket, you can't lose them.

Kim Moser 39:19

Everything the tripods are. I wouldn't be able to get through any aisles in the thrift store if I put everything in my pocket.

Tim Nealon 39:24

You gotta put them in your pocket. The other day, I bring I'm bringing up my wife off for whatever. The other day she was like patting my thigh

Haunted Binoculars And Physical Sensations

Tim Nealon 39:30

and she's like, What is that? And and I go, Those are my car keys. And she goes, You keep your car keys in your pocket all the time. And I'm like, Yeah. And she looked at me like I I I was a Martian. She's like, What? And I was like, That's how you don't lose them. Like, what do you mean? She's like I'm like, Where are your car keys? She's like, they're out in the car. I'm like, that's how you get your fucking car stolen. What are you talking about? Um, yeah, I'm definitely the weirdo with them in my pocket. Um, but you bought it, you brought out a pair of binoculars. Um now what and you were like shaking like a crazy person a little bit, like you know, like so you found these binoculars, I'm I guess guessing in a thrift shop, and you and now do you know they're haunted before you pick them up? Is it because do they kind of have like a little homing beacon where you're like doo-doo doo-doo and you like kind of find them, or is it you got to pick them up?

Kim Moser 40:16

Sometimes I mean, I I like collecting a lot of old things. Um, and so I was immediately drawn to them because my basement is black and gold. And I was like, oh, these would look really great on a shelf. So then I asked the associate to open up the little glass display that they were in. And as soon as I picked them up, I was like, oh, these are carrying some energy. Like I can really feel that there is something attached, whether it's just, you know, old residual energy, somebody maybe really loved them, that type of thing. Um, but for whatever reason, like I've never been able to do a like a paranormal investigation on them. I just know that they feel crazy.

Tim Nealon 40:56

Well, they they looked old, you know, and I they are old.

Kim Moser 40:59

And I I can't yeah, I think they're from the late 1800s. Right. They're Parisian, you know. Oh my god, I see what you saw, Amy. That's crazy. I mean, I need to see it. It's like right there. Oh my gosh.

Tim Nealon 41:14

It's what?

Kim Moser 41:16

We're messing with you.

Tim Nealon 41:16

Yeah, I was gonna say, we're gonna be able to do that.

Kim Moser 41:18

We're looking directly at you.

Tim Nealon 41:20

I look I look much better in 8K. So uh yeah, just zoom in on those pixels. I look better pixelated. I think that should go on a t-shirt. Um I told you they were looking at you. Yeah, I'm I'm nothing to look at, especially with binoculars. No, those kind of look like, you know, like uh, yeah, you're right, like late 1800s. You know, I'm a big Civil War buff. I don't want to consider myself a historian. And and I don't think that those are from the American Civil War. I gotta be careful because you guys have never had a Civil War, have you? No, there you did. It was between like like polar bears and um Moose and Moose. Um, but our our Civil War, like they used binoculars, and it almost reminded me of the ones that they would carry around with them. I don't think that's what it is, but they definitely look old.

Kim Moser 42:05

Um Yeah, I think they're more used for like um operas and plays and things like that.

Tim Nealon 42:11

So so when you pick up these binoculars, like like the describe the the process. Maybe maybe that's not the right word. And I keep saying my P's very hard in the mic. Um like the process of like, okay, I pick this up. So what does it feel like for you or any of you? Like when you when you come across one of these haunted objects, is it is it physical? Is it like in your is it mental? Like what is going on that you think Yeah, it's a it's a bit of both.

Kim Moser 42:36

It definitely depends on the object, though. Um, one of one of the more common things for me is that I will either feel dizzy or nauseous almost instantly after I pick up an item. Um, also like the feeling of getting sort of hot. Um, also the feeling of static energy sometimes. So like static electricity in my hands. Sometimes I'm feeling that. Um, and for me, like it's very rare. I don't know how many paranormal investigations I've been on now, probably well over 150. Um, I don't really often see a spirit. Um, Chelsea is very good at seeing dead people. Um I see. But I do have a lot of images that are sort of painted in my third eye, very much like as if a dream is just sort of like laying over my regular reality. So I'll have just these like little pictures of people pop into my head and I'm able to describe what they look like.

Tim Nealon 43:31

Now, are you ever able to validate any of that for the haunted object itself? Or have you ever been able to question?

Kim Moser 43:38

Have have have we? Yes. Um, definitely in paranormal investigations, when I've had those, those um images come into my head, then I would see, you know, somebody's deceased loved one and they're like, is this? And I'm like, Yes, that is exactly who I saw in my head.

Tim Nealon 43:56

Right?

Kim Moser 43:57

Yeah, yeah, it it does happen for sure. But my dreams are definitely where I have a lot of my validation because there's facts about these people that I've never met before that have clear messages for people that I'm gonna see that day or other friends. And I'm like, yeah, did your did your grandfather like wear this plaid scarf? And was he from Scotland? And they're like, How did you know that?

Tim Nealon 44:24

And then he also drank a water.

Kim Moser 44:25

He changed me in a dream last night and he wanted me to tell you that he's super proud of you.

Tim Nealon 44:29

Oh. See, I I don't have fun dreams like that. Most of my dreams involve like bad things. Like uh, like I have this recurring dream, and this is true. I'm not making it up. Like a Tyrannosaurus is chasing me, and like I just know he's gonna eat me. And he never eats me because you know, the thing like you wake up or whatever, the dream just ends. But throughout my entire life, I've always been chased by a Tyrannosaurus.

Kim Moser 44:51

Um you've got PTSD from your past life as a caveman.

Tim Nealon 44:56

No, I don't think that's it. Um, I think I'm just so so I so one of my goals in life, and I gotta really do this fast because I'm like I just turned 46 the other day. So I'm like way fucking older than I look. I know I look like I'm like 25, but I just turned 46. Um I'm I'm determined that before the end of my life, I am gonna do like what Jurassic Park was supposed to do, right? Bring back the dinosaurs. And I'm working on this slowly. I'm still in the idea stage. Um, but like at some point I'm convinced that I'm gonna be the guy that brings back dinosaurs. And maybe that dream is telling me that like if I do, it's gonna eat me. Um just hold on.

Kim Moser 45:42

Are you guys smelling cigarette smoke?

Tim Nealon 45:46

Oh my god, the last few days I've really wanted a cigarette. Um, it must mean something.

Kim Moser 45:51

Like it's really strong right now for me. I don't know why.

Tim Nealon 45:54

Where are y'all?

Kim Moser 45:55

Carry on. Yeah, carry on.

Tim Nealon 45:56

Yeah, Carter asked, where are you guys? Are you guys like uh in a pool hall? Or because then it would smell.

Kim Moser 46:00

No, no, we're we're actually in apparently a haunted

Haunted Airbnb And Ghost Gear

Kim Moser 46:05

house. Um it's just an Airbnb.

Tim Nealon 46:08

There's there uh did you guys know that it was haunted when you got it?

Kim Moser 46:13

No, we had no idea. Our producer booked it for us.

Tim Nealon 46:16

Oh, that must be nice that people book things for you, Carter.

Carter Simoneaux 46:20

Um, how do you determine that it's haunted then?

Kim Moser 46:26

Uh Chelsea, I saw a man standing in the basement and on the deck, and on the deck this morning today, coming home from work.

Tim Nealon 46:33

Oh yeah?

Amy Murphy 46:33

She thought I was a real person. She goes, Who's that standing on the deck? And then we're like, what are you talking about? She gets to the car, she's like, Oh, he's dead. Never mind. A real person.

Tim Nealon 46:44

And at no point do you guys ever look at each other and go, Are we fucking crazy? Like, what is going on here? Like, where it's like, you know, you're you're seeing dead people, you know, your hands are vibrating because of a uh binocular. Uh, you see shit in a mirror, and it's like, ah, like there has to be something wrong with us.

Kim Moser 47:03

Um, it's just become our new norm.

Tim Nealon 47:05

Yeah, and I was gonna say, I don't think there's anything wrong with any of you guys, but you know what I'm saying. It has to be funny times from time to time to just be like, is this really the life we're living right now?

Kim Moser 47:13

Like, yeah, honestly, yes. Yes, we say it all the time.

Tim Nealon 47:19

No, I I do it too.

Amy Murphy 47:21

This is our life.

Tim Nealon 47:22

I say it too, but I'm usually scrying when I do it. Uh sad crying or scrying? Sad crying. This is my life. So the the dead guy that you saw at the Airbnb, like, so now are you guys gonna go like full-blown investigator and like figure out who this dead guy is? Or are you just gonna let it be? Yeah.

Kim Moser 47:40

Um I'll pass. You don't have to. Yeah. Why are you gonna pass? I don't really want them coming to me all the time, like ringing my little doorbell, being like, hey, I'm here, hey, hey, hey. No, I just want to relax.

Tim Nealon 47:57

Yeah, Airbnbs are nice for that. I I I we only use Airbnb. Every time we travel now, except for this time we went to what was it? Uh Paracon. We had to stay in a fucking hotel and it was a shitty hotel. Um, it was like Were you at Pennhurst? Yeah.

Kim Moser 48:11

Um we were we were there too. We were there.

Tim Nealon 48:15

Oh, I I'm surprised we didn't run each other. We ran like all the celebrity panels and like the dinners and everything. Like there was a guy on stage asking really dumb questions. That was me. Um like anyways, so no, we uh we always stay in Airbnbs. The uh like when we went to Oregon for two weeks, Airbnb, great. So yeah, definitely always stay in Airbnb. I feel like somebody needs to create an app that's only like the haunted version of that. I think we can do that. Um I think that's I think you need to do this. Well, I am a software engineer, I can do it. The other thing, and I said that's so cocky too, by the way. I was like, I'm a software engineer, I could do that. Um But you know, the other thing that so I think that they should in Airbnb, they should actually put that as like an option, like when you're searching, like, is this haunted? Because there's some people that want a haunted house and there's some that doesn't. And I think I think the big moneymaker that everybody's missing out on right now for Airbnbs is actually bidets. Like, there's one in ours, no shit upstairs. I knew it, I saw it in my head, and it's white.

Kim Moser 49:17

Oh my god, it's what you saw it in the mirror, didn't you?

Tim Nealon 49:20

No, what mirror? I'm not the crazy person looking in mirrors and seeing shit. I don't know what you're talking about, but I knew that you guys had a white bidet upstairs. Um, he's gonna try to fleece us right now. What are you saying? That psychic media, so actually it's funny. Uh do you guys know uh Tessa Graff?

Kim Moser 49:39

Yeah, well, we know up her, yeah.

Tim Nealon 49:41

So her and I have this like friendly argument between us every time we talk. We've been like, she thinks I'm a psychic medium, but I don't think that I am. Um and actually at Pennhurst, what did I do? That was the Burger King thing, right? Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, like like so she was like she thinks I'm a medium, I don't think I'm a medium, and that's no disrespect to her because maybe I am and I just don't fucking know it, but I don't think that I am. But there was this voice while we were doing, we were talking, and it's it it this is true, we got it on camera. It told me tell her about Burger King. And I was like, oh, okay. And I was like, so like, like, what's this deal with like because she was talking about somebody who died, one of her friends, and I said, tell her Burger King. So I did, and she looked at me and she was like, Holy shit, like, what do you mean? I was like, I don't know. This voice just told me mention Burger King to you, and apparently the guy died in front of a Burger King. And then like I mentioned the airbag and the color and the model, the car, and the Nick even said, like, yeah, that that's right. Like, and then they're both looking at me like, How do you know this? And I'm like, I don't know, I don't even know your friend's name, I have no idea. Um, but yeah, she thinks I'm a medium. I don't think I'm a medium.

Amy Murphy 50:55

Um, I feel like you should uh admit to yourself that you are, because um, that's validation.

Tim Nealon 51:03

Well, it is validation, but it's not the kind of validation I wanted. I was looking for it's him, you're so handsome tonight, and I got you're a medium, um, which is not the same thing. Um, can't be choosers. That's true, and I am always begging for I am always begging for validation. Um, that's very true. If you guys knew me better, you would think that's very funny, too. Um, but no, so uh the the medium thing. So so you're not gonna use any uh mediumship or ghost hunting equipment or anything to find out who this dead guy is. I think that's where we were before I got sidetracked with everything else. Yeah. Um you're not gonna do that. Screw the dead guy, you don't care who he is, you're there to enjoy your Airbnb experience.

Kim Moser 51:46

The guy in the basement, too. That sounds mean. I'm sorry to the ghost. Well Canadian side of us.

Tim Nealon 51:53

Yeah, well, like, yeah, I think that you should apologize.

Kim Moser 51:56

Um, I feel like I I acknowledge them.

Tim Nealon 52:00

Well, it's almost like you're it's almost like you're saying you're not interesting enough for me. Like I spend my time w investigating the really bad. Yeah, like like I only spend my time trying to figure out who the interesting ghosts are. So sorry, dude on the porch in the basement.

Carter Simoneaux 52:14

Um see, this is this is this is just Tim the workaholic. Yeah, this is just Tim the workaholic talking. He doesn't believe in people clocking out for the day, you know. She just wants to enjoy her Airbnb and clock out for the you did not talk to ghosts for one night, and you're like, nah, keep on going, keep pushing. You gotta work, you gotta keep going.

Kim Moser 52:32

Um like like I mean, we've we've got we've got some devices here, but you know, if Chelsea Chelsea doesn't often say what Chelsea wants. So if Chelsea doesn't want to do it, we're not gonna do it.

Tim Nealon 52:48

Oh, I was just messing with it.

Kim Moser 52:49

We're gonna push it. We're gonna let her recharge those batteries.

Tim Nealon 52:52

I was just totally having a joke at the ghost expense. I was not. It's okay.

Kim Moser 52:57

I'm sorry. You know, we did we did actually uh attempt to interact with him yesterday, and Chelsea immediately was like, So do you like Kim's butt? Oh she didn't get anything. She's like, Do you like Amy's butt? Didn't get anything. She's like, Well, he must be gay. I was like, or he's conservative. Like, come on, Chelsea.

Tim Nealon 53:19

Not not every man is well, I mean, I don't know, like, you know, one, I'm a married man, so I I don't care about anybody's butt but my wife's. But even if it was, I'd be I I would be afraid to answer that. Like, even if I was a single guy, like I would not you don't put me in a position where I have to judge one and it could be a man's too. I mean, I can admit some men have great butts, like it doesn't have to be a woman. Like, don't put me in a position where I have to tell you what I think about somebody's butt because then it's gonna make it is this a trap. What?

Kim Moser 53:48

No, is this a trap, you know? Like, yeah, yeah.

Tim Nealon 53:52

Like, so you could ask them like who has the better personality. Um like because that's what really matters, right? Um I mind just meant the butts. Oh, well, that's okay too. Butts are nice. Um happens, you know. No, but the bidet thing upstairs, let's get back to the bidet. So the the reason I brought that up is because I think all Airbnb should have bidets. If you put like I have a bidet, I think that the number of people who are gonna want to stay at your Airbnb go way up. And I know this has nothing to do with our conversation, but this is very important to me, and I think I need to get this out there somehow because they're gonna snip this into a little clip of Tim telling the Airbnb world to put fucking bidets in your Airbnb. I have one at my house, and every time I fucking travel, actually that's the biggest reason I hate traveling, is because of the lack of bidet. So you ladies got it. Like a portable bidet. I know, but those are so gross because it's like a squeeze bottle that you have to like squeeze it and like like emotion. Yeah, it's like uh yeah, like it's like a douche or something.

Kim Moser 54:49

And I'm not shortage, yeah. I'm not spraying that on my butt there's a type of bidet that's like it's a a toilet seat that you bring and you put on the toilet seat, yeah, yeah, and then you just hook it up.

Tim Nealon 54:58

Yeah, yeah, and and uh that's what I have at my house. I don't want you guys to think like I have the for fancy, like you know, I get off one and go sit on the other. I don't have that. I have the I think it's Tushy. Is that the brand? Tushy, right?

Carter Simoneaux 55:07

Yeah, Tushy. I'm about to buy one.

Tim Nealon 55:09

Yeah, they're fucking awesome. $99. So when in Oregon, I actually had one shipped to the Airbnb, and then I was just too lazy to put on the toilet. Um, so we left it there as a sign. Um no, I think all Airbnb should have a uh bidet and a ghost guy on the porch.

Kim Moser 55:24

Um What about a ghost on the bidet?

Tim Nealon 55:29

Ooh, that's a good one. Um Well, I mean, if I mean let's be serious, if the ghost was on the bidet, like water would just spray all over the room, right?

Kim Moser 55:39

They'd have to be the ones to clean it up.

Tim Nealon 55:40

Yeah, assuming that the ghost was trying to use the bidet. I don't think ghosts are really meant to use bidets. Let's be honest here. Um, I think that's a human, like a living human thing. Um my god, I'm so stupid. Um, all right, let's go back to like the real fucking interview. Um you gotta understand, it's like seven o'clock here, and I was working with 14 hours.

Carter Simoneaux 56:02

I've got a paranormal question. Well, hold on, we gotta set you up, right? We gotta set you up, Carter. Hey, I'm the editor, I'll set myself up. It's true. Just cut right to me, they're right in the middle of it. You guys can't see Carter, can you? No. Nah.

Kim Moser 56:13

To us, Carter's a ghost.

Carter Simoneaux 56:15

Oh, there we go. I have ghosts of women. All right.

Tim Nealon 56:18

So uh you're a horrible man, Carter.

Carter Simoneaux 56:20

Yeah, I regret that.

Tim Nealon 56:22

All right. So what's your paranormal question, Carter?

Carter Simoneaux 56:24

Well, uh someone was mentioned earlier of like shaking, uh holding certain objects or whatnot. And you know, when you're in that space, you're going to like thrift stores or investigations, you know, your your antennas up for the paranormal, and you know, you hold something and you'll get the the shakes, or you'll you'll get nauseous. Do you ever can you ever like turn that off? Like if you're at a Tim Hortons, you know, getting coffee or whatever. Do you that's Canadian? That's why you said that. That is why I said it. But can you get those feelings in just a different space if you're out shopping for whatever or you're you know you're hanging out with friends or family or you know, getting coffee?

Kim Moser 56:59

I'm not usually the type of person who would get like I guess uh awaking message from like a deceased loved one to like a random stranger standing in a coffee line. And I wouldn't assume unless you know somebody died, and then Tim Hortons said it'd be a haunted location. So for me, I'm gonna say no.

Tim Nealon 57:18

I think Tim Hortons would be a great place to die, by the way. Why? Because they have fucking great donuts. Oh, just did you die happy? Yeah, I love well, I mentioned this earlier. I love donuts. Double doughnuts like uh I don't know how I don't have diabetes and I'm not 400 pounds. Um anyways, and Sydney Crosby did a Tim Hortons uh commercial with Nathan Nathan McKinnon, actually. Um I remember that. All right, anyways, so it's I just ruined Carter's I just totally hijacked and then ruined Carter's question. Um well what about the other the you other two, Amy and uh Chelsea?

Amy Murphy 57:56

Like, do you ever you know um so yeah,

Boundaries And Turning It Off

Amy Murphy 58:00

uh I try not to get messages when I'm hanging with my girls or when I'm out, but um it happens. Um for me, my sign that there's a spirit around, like I start to shake. Like I'll be like, guys, my knees are starting to shake or I get a pit in my tummy, it starts shaking, I just kind of tremble. I used to think I had anxiety as a kid, and come to find out, long story short, is my mom kind of put it together that anytime I'm starting to channel a spirit, it feels like I have a panic attack coming on. It's just the feeling in my body. And so I started honing into that over the years. Um, we could just be sitting in a car in the Wendy's parking lot, eating chicken strips. And then I go full trance and I'm just it gets it goes crazy. Um, when I'm with the girls, I'll let it go sometimes just to see what it is or who it is. Um, but when I'm with my family, like my kids and my husband, like I have it completely shut off blocked. Although there has been times where I started channeling, like in a hotel room, I'm just laying with my husband. I start shaking, and my husband's like, Can you please not shake the bed tonight? Like, I want to go to bed. I'm like, sorry, someone's trying to say hi. Um, so sometimes they do come through uh in random times in my life, but um, it's really heightened when I'm with the girls. I have to admit, it happens more often than not when we're just hanging out. There's many stories we could share, many of random times just and Chelsea just sees them on the daily. So she can validate my feeling because I'll say I feel something, and she's like, Yep, there's someone right there. But I'm like, cool, thank you for validating that.

Tim Nealon 59:39

That's what you call a helpful friend. Um, yeah.

Amy Murphy 59:42

So you can say how you feel too.

Kim Moser 59:44

How do you feel? Um, a lot of the times they come to me at all times. I have a whole system and it's kind of hard to like explain quickly, but I pretty much have a system with the spirits that if they do want to communicate with me, they have to go into this spot that I've created in my third eye. I call it my garden. And sometimes they'll ring a doorbell and I'll know that there's a spirit there. My ears will like get this big ring in them. It kind of sounds like I'm underwater and I'm dealing with a lot of like water pressure. And then my eyes start to tear, and that's how I know a spirit's trying to come through to me.

Amy Murphy 1:00:19

Right.

Kim Moser 1:00:20

Um, there'll be times like we were out at a spa and we were with two other mediums with the three of us, and we're talking to the girl at the cashier, and I look behind her and I'm like, there's a woman right behind her. It looks like her grandmother. So I turned to my other medium friend and I was like, Do you see that woman behind her too? And she's like, Yep. And I'm like, nice, okay. And then she had a message that we had to share with her. But normally I don't go up to random people and be like, hey, so your grandma wants me to let you know, like to clean up your room or do this or this. So I try to like tune it out. But there are lots of times where I'll be standing in a line at Tim Hortons and all of a sudden, like a spirit's in my like my mind yelling at me, trying to get my attention to say something. And sometimes they won't leave me alone until I just physically say what they want to say out loud. So it could be like in my head, they're just saying like the word, like Greg, Greg, Greg. And the word, like I can't focus on anything else until I just say Greg.

Tim Nealon 1:01:20

So I'm not shooting you. I'm really not making this up. This is the truth. So I'm sitting here testing my own medium abilities, right? So I was sitting here, I swear to God, this is true. And I'm like, okay, I'm trying to make contact with the man that you saw. And the name that kept popping up in my head was Greg. I swear to God. Are you I swear on my life? I swear on my life.

Kim Moser 1:01:45

Um validation. Validation.

Tim Nealon 1:01:48

Yeah, but I I don't know that I'm right though. Like, but that was that was like there's this thing. It was kept saying, Greg, Greg, Greg. But I was like, nah, that's wild. Like, like, so maybe, and maybe if you guys do try to find out who that dead guy is and his name turns out to be Greg, maybe you can like shoot me an email and be like, Yeah, for sure.

Kim Moser 1:02:06

Because I don't know what made me say Greg.

Tim Nealon 1:02:08

Like, I I I swear I I wish I would have said it back then because then it would well, then you could have just said you were using your name. So I'm glad I didn't say it. But I swear on my life, not trying to be funny or dramatic, because I'm really not a medium, but there was a voice that kept saying, Greg.

Kim Moser 1:02:22

Yeah, but that was so cool. And it's so funny too that you're like, I wish I would have said it earlier, because I think the whole like first year that we started investigating together all the time, I would always be like, damn it, I wish I just would have said that out loud because that was exactly the name that was in my head like 30 minutes ago or an hour ago.

Tim Nealon 1:02:41

Well, on one hand, it it's good not to say the name because then if you say it, that might put that in somebody's head for later. You know, like it's kind of like a catch 22. You're damned if you say it, you're damned if you don't.

Amy Murphy 1:02:51

Like you write a piece of paper, put it aside, and then say, pull that paper out because I wrote on it. You know what I mean? Like a half hour ago. Like, put the time that you wrote it, like put, you know what I mean? So that when you look back at it, it's like, okay, she wrote that at like seven o'clock. You know what I mean? Great idea.

Kim Moser 1:03:05

Yeah.

Tim Nealon 1:03:05

That's actually really nice.

Kim Moser 1:03:12

And we'd walk by this house, and I think it was Kim who asked, like, Oh, I wonder whose house that was. And I was like, Oh, that's Jeremy's house. Like, just casually. And then we walk by the house, and the house was like a Jeremiah, like it was called a Jeremiah house. And I was like, Yeah, oh shit, okay.

Tim Nealon 1:03:30

Jeez, you started to say the J one. So the other name that I kept hearing was Jacob, and you were you said Jeremiah, but you're like Jay. I'm like, don't even fucking say Jacob. Oh, because then I'm gonna be so pissed that I didn't fucking say something earlier. Uh yeah, Greg and Jacob. But the Greg one, God, I feel so stupid saying this. Um, but that was the one I kept hearing over and over. It was Greg, Greg, Greg, Greg, Greg.

Carter Simoneaux 1:03:51

And it was like Jacob's this future project that you know we'll just tease right now that we're kind of working on with Paracon. Oh, yeah. Uh, we're gonna have to introduce some sort of Tim Medium element to it. Oh God.

Amy Murphy 1:04:02

Um, we're gonna be at Paracon, by the way. Next year we're gonna be featured as well. We're gonna be um have a banner and a table, so we'll be there.

Tim Nealon 1:04:09

Well, I might end up interviewing you in person then if you get on one of those celebrity panels.

Amy Murphy 1:04:14

Um we have two 20-minute workshops. We're up there too.

Tim Nealon 1:04:17

Oh, well, I don't do the workshops. I just do the like, you know, where they get up and like I pretend that I can ask real questions. So in in real life, I can't edit this shit out. So like we got really ridiculous. Like, I remember, you know, Steve uh from Ghost Hunters, right? Um and I went on like a 10-minute rant about dolphins with lasers and like we Amy and I we watched that from the distance.

Amy Murphy 1:04:40

We were standing at the back with a guy, the Ghostbuster guys, we were standing at the back there, and we we heard that whole thing going on.

Tim Nealon 1:04:47

We're watching you. Oh, see, then you actually sort of met me in person already.

Kim Moser 1:04:51

But it stalked you from the sidelines and you didn't even know it.

Tim Nealon 1:04:54

I am very I don't pay attention to anything. Um dolphins, apparently. Yeah, dolphins with lasers on their back breaking through walls with aliens. Um, we we talk about yeah, so maybe we'll get a chance to do that. No, we're actually going to be we're we're we're filming this fun little thing, and I don't want to get in too many details right now, but essentially what it is is we're going to be filming for four nights at Pennhurst, I think in August. We gotta nail down the exact dates yet. Um, I'm not gonna give out any names, at least on air, but some of your favorite celebrity paranormal paranormal celebrities are gonna be there.

Amy Murphy 1:05:27

And I think you said third eye paranormal was gonna be there. I think that's what you said, but I'm not sure.

Tim Nealon 1:05:32

I don't know that I said that. Um he didn't actually, Amy, but that's okay. I like how you're trying to like put it in my head though. Um, so what we're doing is we're actually uh we're going to have a contest over the next couple months, and we're gonna pick four people that do the best at this contest. So one, two, three, if you guys do the best, you'll get it. But anyways, we're paying for every all expenses paid trip to Pennhurst to spend four nights investigating with paranormal celebrities. That you've seen on TV. And but but the catch is we're actually trying to find people who don't know anything about ghost hunting, um, but have always really wanted to do it. Because I thought that'd be funny. Like, let's put all these people together and see what happens. That's um now, Penhurst, have you do you guys often go to locations such as Pennhurst to do any investigations, or are you kind of more, you know, like like the personal type hauntings, you know, people's homes and businesses and stuff like that?

Kim Moser 1:06:26

We go to them all. We love all locations. Yeah, we've done a bit of everything. Um we are super busy with our like professional lives right now. So, you know, we can't really do much until we have a break in August. Um, but Chelsea and her her partner actually, they have a YouTube channel. And so they go in the woods, they go to a lot of different haunted locations. I've gone to some of them with them too. We've been down in Ohio. Where else have we gone? Why am I drawing a blank? She's been everywhere. She just can't remember all the places, but she's been to a lot of places. A lot of different places. Hospitals, prisons, um, all of the good stuff. All of them. We travel all over the states in Canada to do it.

Carter Simoneaux 1:07:12

What's more haunted, the US or Canada?

Kim Moser 1:07:17

That I feel like this is a trick question. Um honestly that I'd say both are comparable. I feel like Canada is has a lot of locations that are documented and aren't like they don't have the spotlight that they should have. We have a lot of really spooky locations down here. A lot.

Tim Nealon 1:07:40

No, I bet you guys do. Um, because people die in Canada too. I I actually think maybe um plus you guys gold. Plus you guys have that really shitty healthcare up there where you have to wait like two years if you break your legs.

Kim Moser 1:07:52

So like But at least it doesn't cost us twenty thousand dollars.

Tim Nealon 1:07:55

That's true. So I had to have uh surgery back in November. Um and and like it was actually a good surgery. It was slightly unexpected, but I and and I do have shitty health care because that's the only kind we offer here at Go City Tours. Um but anyways, the bill for this surgery ended up being it was like $240,000. Now insurance took care of what how do you pay that? Well, no, and well, insurance took care of most of it. So, but at the end, I still was left like with like a $3,000 bill, which is fine. Like without sounding like a douche, like uh like I do okay for myself, but and then I sit there and think, like, what if I was like a person just making you know, like Carter's money? Um like I was like, that's a lot of money to normal people, thirty four hundred dollars.

Carter Simoneaux 1:08:44

Um we've got a seven hundred dollar emergency room bill that I need to pay. Really? Mm-hmm.

Tim Nealon 1:08:48

I got some weeding and mulching that needs done at my house if you want to have some gastroenteric.

Carter Simoneaux 1:08:54

It is also it's also June in South Louisiana, so I thought I might have to pass on that one to just eat the money.

Tim Nealon 1:08:59

So is this from the no, I'm not even gonna ask that. Yeah, I don't want to set myself up for liability.

Carter Simoneaux 1:09:03

Um no, I I went to the uh gastro doctor that said it was not from that.

Tim Nealon 1:09:07

Oh, good. Okay, then I can say it. So we were doing a podcast a couple weeks ago and we it was a contest and Carter lost, so we had to eat ghost peppers. And uh this was actually the day before we flew out for Paracon. Yeah. And Carter ended up in the ER. And I thought that it was because he had to eat the ghost peppers, and I was like, oh my god, this motherfucker's gonna sue me. Um, so I'm glad that we got you were recording that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. It's not my fault. He can't sue me.

Carter Simoneaux 1:09:32

Um, anyways, we Yeah, no, I I I've relinquished liability. Thank you. I appreciate that. There's just a giant kidney stone in me. I don't think you did that.

Tim Nealon 1:09:40

No, I I didn't I didn't do that. I don't think so. I mean, it might have been that one day, but yeah, well, who's the same? We don't talk about that. Um, so so you've been all over the place, Chelsea, like Ohio, and I'm gonna guess that's like Mansfield, right? You're at the Mansfield Reformatory.

Kim Moser 1:09:55

Yeah, we've been there, and then um we actually did it's closed down now. It's like a brewery that was an old church.

unknown 1:10:03

Okay.

Kim Moser 1:10:04

In Bryan. In Bryan, yeah. Oh that spot was really cool.

Tim Nealon 1:10:07

Nice.

Kim Moser 1:10:08

And then we did I did a couple prisons up in Ohio as well. And then we did some in Indiana as well. Indiana State Sanatorium, Billy Creek Village. Yeah.

Tim Nealon 1:10:19

Nice. Those are actually a lot of fun. I've been to Mansfield a couple times. That was not my psychic ability. I saw your face over there, Amy. I was or not, Amy, uh, Kim. Uh, you were like, how did he know that? It's because it's the only fucking haunted place I know in Ohio. Um I'm like, um, that's not true. Um, but no, so Mansfield, that's a lot of fun. Indiana, I've actually never been to, but I do know they have a lot of haunted places. Um, but being up in Nova Scotia, I imagine you guys are you guys kind of skipping New England or do you guys go into New England every once in a while? I'm doing this because this is where New England is on the map in my head, by the way.

Kim Moser 1:10:52

Um Lizzie Bordenhouse. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, we've done Lizzie Borden House. Um, I've also done a beautiful old historic inn, I think it's in Greenfield, Maine, maybe. I don't exactly remember. Um, but no, we usually just like stop in Salem because it's it's from our house about nine hours. So we're like a full day of driving, and then we stop in Salem and do our fun little spooky things and go to all the little shops that we love and get all the clothes that we love, and then we carry on to the next destination. I'm also obsessed with the Bridgewater Triangle, so I go there a lot with my partner.

Tim Nealon 1:11:34

I do not know what this Bridgewater Triangle is.

Kim Moser 1:11:36

Oh my god, it's where like the puck waggies are and like there's like Bigfoot activity, and it's insane. You have to go. I'm obsessed. Town State Forest. Yeah, that this is amazing.

Tim Nealon 1:11:45

I've never heard of this before, but you said Bigfoot, so you got my attention. Little known little known fact. Actually, it's not that little known if you would listen to any of our podcasts um every episode. Yeah, like I'm way more obsessed with Bigfoot than I am with ghosts right now in my life. Like I did the ghost thing for like 20 years and now I'm like totally obsessed. I'm I would like to be part of the effort that that finally proves the Bigfoot is a real animal. Um you guys don't believe uh actually,

Why They Investigate And What They Learn

Tim Nealon 1:12:10

do you guys believe in Bigfoot? Now that you brought it up.

Kim Moser 1:12:12

I do. So my fiance and I we go Bigfoot hunting all the time.

Tim Nealon 1:12:15

Oh yeah? Yeah. All right. Now are you one of those weirdos who thinks he like makes himself and Bigfoot makes itself invisible and goes through portals? Or do you think it's an animal?

Kim Moser 1:12:26

I don't I don't think so. I think he's just always there. I always try to bribe him with chicken nuggets, but he never comes out for me.

Tim Nealon 1:12:32

Um have you tried to use him here? Um so funny enough, mirrors um were actually part of my Bigfoot hunting strategy when we went to Oregon. We never got to do it. At first, I had this idea of putting mirrors in the forest because I thought, like, not that Bigfoot's vain and he wants to, or her, depending on which one it is. Um, not that they want to check themselves out, but I thought that would like grab their attention. And that evolved into this idea where I wanted to take a picture of a Bigfoot and a picture of me and like put us like using AI, like we're like have our arms around each other's shoulders. And I wanted to print out like a thousand copies of that and just take them all over the woods and just nail them to trees. Because my idea was that if Bigfoot sees a picture of something that looks like him or her hanging out with me, and then they see me, they're gonna be like, Oh, wait a minute, that's that guy that's on all those pictures. He's a friend to Bigfoot, and then they then Bigfoot and I could could become friends.

Kim Moser 1:13:30

Um I like this theory, yeah.

Tim Nealon 1:13:32

Like I but uh do you guys know Cliff Barrickman from Finding Bigfoot? Um, Cliff's an awesome dude. We he was who we're who we were filming with. We got some other fun things we're in the works with Cliff too. He told me that my idea was ridiculous in in night in a very nice way, because Cliff is a very nice, not very nice guy, but in a nutshell, he's like, Tim, that's ridiculous. So we did not go to Kinko's and and do that. But I think maybe when we go back we should. I think there's some validity to that.

Kim Moser 1:14:02

I actually had this crazy like Bigfoot experience when I was in the Bridgefoot Bridge. Why can't I say it now? Why is the word not working? Bridge It's the ghost bridge water. Thank you, bridgewater triangle. Wow, that was a struggle. Um, my fiance and I were searching for Bigfoot, and all of a sudden we heard all of these insane, insane bangs and booms, and it sounded like trees were literally getting like thrown to the ground and something was like running towards us.

Tim Nealon 1:14:32

Right.

Kim Moser 1:14:32

It was absolutely insane. You can even hear it on the camera how loud it all was. And we just like completely bolted it. But that has been embedded in my head. And ever since that experience, like prior to that, I was kind of like skeptical on Bigfoot. I was like, uh, you know, like until I have my own experience, that was it. That was game changer for me.

unknown 1:14:51

Yeah.

Kim Moser 1:14:52

Now I'm like, I want that again.

Tim Nealon 1:14:53

Yeah, it it's kind of like the thing, you know, like you guys said in the beginning, like until you have a haunted experience or an experience with a ghost, like it's kind of hard to convince somebody that that's real. But once you have that experience, like you described, I mean, and to be fair, you don't know that that was a big foot. But no, I don't, but at the same time, it's one of those. So I've actually seen I'm very certain I've seen two big foot foots uh in my life. I I don't even try to convince people anymore because I'm like, I don't I don't fucking care. Um, but both times it still left me with this feeling like that I was kind of crazy and like, did I really see what I thought I saw? Like it was almost like I know what I saw, um, but but it was like I I even to myself, it's like I couldn't admit that what I saw was probably a a Bigfoot. So even to myself, even once I had the experience, there's still that I absolutely believe in Bigfoot, I think it's a real animal, but there's still that part of my brain that's like, but like what like you know what I mean? Like, like do you guys ever have that with ghosts and hauntings? Like, because I know that you guys experience them and and they're real to you, but do you guys ever have those moments where you're like, and I know I've used this word a lot, I really don't think that you guys are, but have you ever had those thoughts where you're like, maybe we're just all crazy and we're like this is all like something that we're doing to ourselves?

Kim Moser 1:16:10

Oh yeah, I question that stuff all the time. I sometimes have to, well, I mean, in investigations, I think my first instinct is to be like, okay, environmentally, what is different here?

Tim Nealon 1:16:23

Okay.

Kim Moser 1:16:24

Is there a window open? Is that why we're feeling a cold breeze? You know, like uh is there some sort of weird wiring situation going on? I always kind of like revert to those scientific things first before I'm like, yeah, that's a ghost, unless I see it like standing right in front of me, which I said does not happen often for me.

Tim Nealon 1:16:40

Right.

Kim Moser 1:16:41

Um, but no, I'm always left scratching my head and always being like, yeah, maybe, maybe I am a little crazy. And I mean, you if you want to like get really depressed, you just have to go into comments on social media and be like, yeah, other people think I'm crazy too. So maybe I really am crazy. No, I but no, it's it's helpful to have a support team, I guess. Um, and somebody else, like even other people who we investigate with or are behind the scenes on the TV crews and stuff. I think it's really important to have meaningful conversations about like a collective experience because then you don't feel like you're crazy.

Tim Nealon 1:17:19

Yeah, you you I understand exactly what you mean. And and you're right, don't ever read the comments. They're terrible. So, you know, this this possible Greg that you guys have in your Airbnb, are you guys gonna try to No, you already said you're just gonna enjoy the Airbnb and not but what if what if something happens? Like, do you feel compelled, like, oh shit, something moved, like now it's game on, like, or we heard something. Like, are you guys are you are you just gonna do your best to ignore it and enjoy your business?

Kim Moser 1:17:46

Well, I think I think now I need to like confirm if his name is Greg. Okay. I think that's now like on my to-do list.

Tim Nealon 1:17:52

Right. So, so Greg, um he was a maple syrup farmer. Um in his eaglo, right? No, but he did he did have uh he did have a moose that would come in the yard often and he named it Polly or Penny. Why is those names in my head? Polly Penny. I don't know, one of those. That's what he named the moose. I think you're gonna find that out tonight. Um Okay. I'm totally full of shit, by the way. I'm just making this up. Um but okay, all right, let's get back to some serious stuff. So uh when you guys are doing, you know, the these ghost investigations, whether you're you're in a place like you are right now, you know, somebody's home, Mansfield, like what is your overriding philosophy when it comes to doing paranormal investigations? We already determined you're not trying to prove anything to anybody. Um you know, we kind of got into why you do this a little bit, but but like let's dive deeper into that. Like, why are you actually still doing this? Like you you said like to unlock powers or something. And and I'm and I understand there's probably an aspect of that that's true, but at the end of the day, there has to be a different reason or more of a reason why you keep doing this.

Amy Murphy 1:19:07

You go and then I'll go. Okay, so besides we work on a TV show, sure where we're paranormal investigating. So when we do the TV shows, we work on a show. So we do it because it's our job. On the side, um, we don't, I mean, we do sometimes go looking for it. We want to practice or we want to explore something, yes. But a lot of times it just comes to us. We're not even trying, it just happens. So we're not, you know, we don't we don't try. It it finds us, if that makes sense.

Tim Nealon 1:19:39

Yep. I'm afraid to like say okay.

Kim Moser 1:19:44

She got the she just turned the dead bell on back there, like within the last minute or so. So we'll see how it goes. We might have to turn it off. It might be super annoying. But what is it? Um so what? What is it? Dead what?

Amy Murphy 1:19:56

Deadbell. I turned it on about a minute ago.

Carter Simoneaux 1:20:00

Is that from uh GoStop?

Amy Murphy 1:20:02

Yeah.

Tim Nealon 1:20:03

Oh good. I like GoStop, they're a good company. There's another company out there that's just ripping off everything GoStop makes um and then putting their own label on it because they're a piece of shit company.

Carter Simoneaux 1:20:16

Um they had a lot of those bells in the at Paracon where people weren't doing investigations and stuff.

Tim Nealon 1:20:21

Yeah, so well, okay, bef I'm totally interrupting, like a really deep question. I just asked you, what does this bell do? Because I'm actually I'm not familiar, I've seen those before, but I don't know what like does something just ring them? Like what what have happened?

Kim Moser 1:20:33

Yeah, so there's actually an internal like EMF sensor in it.

Tim Nealon 1:20:37

Okay.

Kim Moser 1:20:37

And so, you know, if a spirit wants to get within its range, it can activate it. Or if the spirit's super touchy, they can touch the top.

Tim Nealon 1:20:47

Oh, you like those touchy ghosts. All right. So so so why do you keep doing this?

Kim Moser 1:20:55

Um, well, I think it all spawned out of natural curiosity. I was one of those kids who just loved reading like local lore, um, any sort of like ghost storybook I could find. And then I had these dreams, like when my grandmother passed away. Um, those kind of started in my early 20s. So I had this, you know, again, curiosity like how the heck does this work and why is this such a coincidence? And then I got into doing investigations to find out more myself, like through research, talking with people, all that kind of thing. But what I'm finding now that like actually brings me the most amount of joy is because I love so many local museums. I love the community that we're building to, is to just kind of create this safe space and to give back to our community. So if it is an event that we're doing and there's some funds raised, I want to see it go back to that small town museum. Um, or I just want to, you know, give others the opportunity to be able to come forward and say, hey, I can identify with what you're going through. Like thanks for talking to me about this. And the first time I ever did um a paranormal symposium in Nova Scotia, that was the biggest takeaway that I had is after I did my my speech and my presentation, I had people just wanting to tell me their own stories. And I absolutely adore that. So I think that's why I keep doing it.

Tim Nealon 1:22:17

What about you, Chelsea? I see you over there trying to avoid this question.

Kim Moser 1:22:22

Um, I love getting scared.

Tim Nealon 1:22:25

How did I know that? How did I I just knew that about you? Like, I don't know if it's the hat. Like, I'm like, this this woman's gonna come up with something totally different than the other two. Like, yeah.

Kim Moser 1:22:35

Yeah. Um, yeah, like I love Do you like riding motorcycles? I do love riding motorcycles. Yes, I do.

Tim Nealon 1:22:42

Okay, go ahead.

Kim Moser 1:22:43

Um, but I love getting scared. I love putting myself in situations that like I have to problem solve how to get out of. But honestly, I do have like a deeper reason for all of this too. Um, I just love investigating. I love being with spirits, I love helping spirits. I find the one thing that really got me into paranormal investigating was when I actually lived in Ontario. We had an abandoned asylum called Rito Regional, and it was for adults and kids with disabilities. And in my previous profession, I was a social worker. So I have a severe, severe connection with people with disabilities. I absolutely adored them, love them. And I just really wanted to help them. So I would specifically go to certain locations that I knew had people with disabilities like Letchworth, Asylum, Penhurst, all of these other ones in America and Canada. And I would really be able to tune in and help these individuals. And it just, it just like, I don't know, it really helped me feel connected to the paranormal world. And then it just made me realize how much I love it. And on top of it, like I get scared, which is really fun. And yeah, I just I keep doing it because it's just, it's fun. I love the community that we've built. I love that I get to do it with my best friends and also my fiance. And it's just a lot of fun building the like the connections that we have.

Tim Nealon 1:24:05

So I have a couple of questions from that. One, so Letchworth,

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Tim Nealon 1:24:10

I've never been there. But that's one of those locations. I mean, if it's even still standing anymore, um, you know, that that always intrigued me. Um, you know, I I don't even remember where I first heard about Letchworth. But when you were there, like, you know, this this idea of connecting with these certain type of people, did did uh what did you experience at Letchworth? I'm always curious to talk to people who have been there because I haven't.

Kim Moser 1:24:34

It's it's a really, really heavy spot. Um, I did have a lot of individuals who were residents there that would come through. And like I know sign language, I know all of those things. So there were some individuals who I could physically see that were signing. So then I would sign back to them in sign language and communicate with them that way. Um, a lot of like big feelings and emotions. Um, I would see a lot of the individuals like sitting in the corners, kind of like rocking and crying, and I could hear the cries and I could hear all of that. A lot of them were touching me, like pulling on me, trying to get my attention. I did get a lot of them that were really pissed off with me too, because of the language that I do use when I talk to individuals. It's like a lot of like first and then, which you learn in school to kind of do. And they think that I'm staff. So I would right away be like, no, no, I'm not a staff. I don't work here, I'm here to help you, like, and just kind of like reiterate that to them. But it was, it's very heavy, but a lot of individuals would specifically come to me because I think they just saw the light that I was there to help them.

Tim Nealon 1:25:39

Well, that they they kind of need that. I mean, the people that were at Letchworth went through a lot of shit. Um, you said the language that you're using, so it was like not specific words or anything that you were just talking to them like in a clinical In sign language, yeah. Oh, in sign language. Um Yeah.

Kim Moser 1:25:55

So like I would be able to see them like signing for help and signing certain things, and then I would use sign language back to them.

Tim Nealon 1:26:01

Right. That's very interesting. I've never heard of somebody signing with a ghost. Um and then they responded. I kind of want to try this now. Um but I won't be able to see them back. And I and I know very little sign language. Um you know, I I imagine that a lot of the places you go to, you know, you described a very emotional experience. You know, I imagine that uh like are all of you like kind of mediums like have this medium thing. So like when you go to these vacations.

Kim Moser 1:26:35

I would say I'm more I would say I'm more intuitive. Um, and I would say that like I have a scattering of gifts as opposed to like one specific, like really strong gift.

unknown 1:26:47

Yeah.

Tim Nealon 1:26:48

What she's saying is that her gifts are more awesome than your guys's.

Kim Moser 1:26:51

No, not at all. I I think what I I would say is like I have a little bit of that and a little bit of that, and then a lot of like scattering of this.

Tim Nealon 1:26:59

Yeah.

Kim Moser 1:27:00

I don't know. Well popery of sorts.

Tim Nealon 1:27:02

Oh, I bet. You know, I used to do a lot of ghost hunting. I mean, there there were times that um because of the company, we had these big events all over the country. I mean, I was on the the road sometimes four, five, six months out of the year doing ghost hunts. And at a lot of these places that we'd stay at, we would stay at for for days and sometimes actually even weeks at a time. And uh, you know, I I once again I I I am not a medium, but I I do think that I'm I'm I'm sensitive to things, if that makes any sense. Like I I don't know how to make sense of sometimes how I feel, but I can walk into a room and get a really good feel for maybe what's in there. Does that make any sense? Like, but I don't really know what that means.

Amy Murphy 1:27:41

Like I feel like you have a lot of gifts and for some reason, like you don't want to admit it for whatever reason. And I feel like you should own it because it you should be proud of the gifts you have. A lot of people try uh really hard or they want to do it and they can, or they you know don't understand it. But I I I see Full on, like you have a lot of gifts, and I definitely think you should own it and you should be proud of it and maybe learn like dig into it a little bit more and learn more because you're very intrigued for a reason. It's because you know it's in there.

Tim Nealon 1:28:12

Well, you know, I mean, maybe you're right. I don't want to argue with you. Um, because I like even with Tesla, I thought it maybe I slightly offended her when I was like, I'm not a medium, which I did not mean to do. Um, so I don't want to argue about it. But there's just like like to me, it's like um like it's like, nah, that that that that that's not true. That's not a thing.

Amy Murphy 1:28:32

It's because as you're putting a label on it and you don't have to put a label on it. I was the same way. I only started really owning recently trans mediumship because I really identified with trance when I was looking into like what are my gifts? What do I do? How what do I call myself? Because I don't know. I just know what I do when I do it, and I don't know how to label it. And so I just use the label trance medium because it's the easiest to explain. I go into a trance state, don't know, you know, I can't explain it other than that. And the mediumship is because I'm communicating with, you know, the other side. And so I feel like if you drop the label and you know, because you keep saying, I'm not a medium, I'm not a medium, but everything you're doing is what mediums do. You don't have to label yourself. You, you know, I I think you should just own it. You got gifts, you got gifts.

Tim Nealon 1:29:20

Maybe one day, but maybe one day I'll get there. But no, what I was saying is like, you know, you can kind of like read an energy, right? Like, you know, without without any specific spirit or ghost talking to you. And but there were a couple of places that I went to, and funny enough, they were there are places that kind of fit into the category that you were describing, Chelsea, like like Trans Allegheny, uh, Old South Pittsburgh Hospital, like all these places that kind of had those situations without going into detail. Um, those were always the ones that would impact me most. There was actually a couple times I ended up like tearing up. One time I even cried. Like it was just like it was just like this energy that um that you don't have to be a medium to feel. And uh but but how but so for you guys, everybody kind of has a different way, but how do you guys avoid getting to that point where it's just overwhelming? You know, and I know that everybody everybody I talk to or a lot of people who say that they're mediums or whatever, they they describe almost like like they can turn off a switch or they just ignore it or something. But I imagine at some point it has to be really hard to turn off that switch. And and how do you deal with that?

Kim Moser 1:30:28

My I guess uh therapy, we'll call it, is just completely disconnecting and spending time on the ocean. Um, feeling like the wind in my hair and just just completely disconnecting from everything that's going on around me because oftentimes it's like everything's just so noisy. I live a really busy life too. So just having the ability to go out in nature and just take it all in is the best way for me to do it.

Tim Nealon 1:30:55

The feeling of the sand between your toes and the waves crashing and the birds, and you just kind of sit in that moment with the grass all around you, and it's gone. That wouldn't work for me.

Amy Murphy 1:31:08

Um so I just oh sorry, we get we're going through who how we disconnect?

Tim Nealon 1:31:14

Yeah, sure. I'm I'm curious to hear how you all do it.

Amy Murphy 1:31:17

Okay. Uh nature for me, I love being in nature. Um, but I feel that the way where I disconnect the most is when I'm with my kids and my husband, because just the mama bear in me. Um, I when I'm in mom mode, it's like I got blocks and shields up on like their armor, right? So nothing is getting to my babies, right? So I feel like I really shut off around my kids. Um, my husband, not as much, because I've I've channeled things near him, like uh somewhat. So somewhat I can get in with my husband around, but the kids, it's like no bueno, nothing is like I'm shut off. I'm I'm a hard brick with my kids. I think that's what shuts me off. Yeah, I guess that's how to answer that.

Tim Nealon 1:32:03

Shuts you off. Okay. Uh so what turns you off, uh Chelsea? Um, that sounds so bad. How do you how do you turn it off? Yeah.

Kim Moser 1:32:14

I'm really big on boundaries. Um mine when I first started this and first started learning my gifts, I had a really hard time turning it off and I had no boundaries at all. And I would just let spirits come in whenever they wanted. I mean, it also doesn't help that I collect an insane amount of haunted objects. Like I just got a child's coffin from the 1800s. So, like my house is also very haunted because of myself. But I've just gotten really good at creating those boundaries of acknowledging the spirit and just saying, like, look, I see you, I hear you, I will get to you. But right now, like, just no, no, thank you. So I have a whole system, like I mentioned with my garden and the doorbell. I also have another system where if I start to feel really overwhelmed while investigating or I'm kind of like channeling and they're not really respecting my boundaries, is I do do something called

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Kim Moser 1:33:05

cutting the cord. Okay. And pretty much what that is, is I envision a cord in front of me and I have like big scissors or a knife, whatever you want to do to cut this cord. And I just physically cut it three times in front of me and then three times behind me. And I'm just setting the intention that like this is my boundary. I don't want to communicate right now. And that's kind of how I turn off.

Tim Nealon 1:33:26

So when you're at home, you're like, Jack, quit bothering me. And then you do that, and then Jack goes away.

Kim Moser 1:33:33

And sometimes they don't. Like sometimes they really don't listen. And then I do have to use my like, I call it a group home voice when I worked at group homes, and then I really have to pull out the like, no, you need to leave me alone. Like, this is my house, this is my space, like out you go. Right. And then I will invite them back in if I want later.

Tim Nealon 1:33:51

You guys live in a real, real weird world. Um, I know. Like, if I had to do that all the time, well, I guess you can't really move because then wherever you move, because there's ghosts everywhere. Like everybody thinks, like, oh, this is a haunted place. But I'm willing to bet you all three agree with me. Like, ghosts are just everywhere. Probably you agree with me.

Kim Moser 1:34:12

Yeah, maybe like like so I live, I live in a house that's 20 years old. However, it's an old farm. And I've even my husband who doesn't see ghosts, or he's very intrigued by all of this, but this is not his world. He's like, Yeah, I'm pretty sure I just saw a ghost in the dining room. And I'm like, Yeah, I felt like there was that man who keeps coming in my dreams too, like in my house. I'm dreaming of my house, and there's this man in my house. So I'm like, Yeah, the house isn't old. There's no reason to say that the house is haunted. However, it's on, you know, an old farm where people lived for hundreds of years. So maybe.

Tim Nealon 1:34:49

Yeah, my house is on a where a plantation used to be, but not where the plantation house sat. Um and then there was lots of other cool things though. But my house is really haunted. But I think it I think it's mostly me. Um but but you're haunted. Well, like maybe, like almost like, okay, so you guys know this idea of like ghosts, you know, following you home and stuff like that. I actually, for the longest time, I thought that was bullshit. I was like, nah, they don't follow you home, they just do whatever the hell they want. Um, but after all those years on the road doing the ghost hunts, all of a sudden I started noticing, wait a minute, like this voice that I just got in my house, because you know how you're not supposed to investigate your own house. I do it all the time, I don't care. Um, like bring it on, ghosts. Um, I started getting the same voices in my house saying the same thing. So I'm like, wait a minute, that and I would go back and look. I'm like, that's the same guy saying the same thing that I first came across at like Bobby Mackey's, and now it's in my house saying the same kind of things. And like uh and I started putting these pieces together and I just I was like, holy shit, I don't know that like this idea of like them literally following you home. I don't know that they do that, but somehow they do end up where you are unless like you made a connection.

Amy Murphy 1:35:58

It's that energetic cord. You could cut off the cord to them if you want, tell them to go, just cut your cords, be like, bye. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Tim Nealon 1:36:06

See, I I don't mind it. So I'm I'm not I'm not a medium. And uh really well, I'm not. And so, but there are times like where like none of this stuff bothers me anymore. And I don't mean that from like a bravado, I'm brave thing, because I'm sure something could happen when it deals with ghosts or hauntings that would scare the shit out of me. And when I first started this, everything did. You know, you hear a voice or something move, like everything scares the shit out of you. I am not afraid of any of it anymore. Like, I actually tried to touch a shadow person in my house. I was laying in bed and I saw a shadow person and I was like, I think I'm gonna try to touch this thing. And I don't think I was able to, but I I none of it bothers me anymore. So I don't want to cut the cord. Like I'm actually wanting more of this in my life. Like I they can I think a lot of it is, and now I'm rambling. Um, and I'm gonna comment about it.

Amy Murphy 1:36:51

No, I find that interesting. I find it interesting that you want it in your home and you don't want to cut cords and you want to collect it all.

Tim Nealon 1:36:58

Well, it it just makes things well, I'm not, but it makes things interesting. It's like like I you you guys probably have great weather all the time up there in Canada. Um, but like but yeah, I know, I'm just kidding. But uh you know how like when maybe you're one of those people like when you get really bad weather outside, like you kind of enjoy it because like you don't know it's like ominous, weary, and you don't know what's gonna happen. Plus, like we live in a place where we literally get tornado warnings. I don't know, Carter, but like three times a month. Like where do you live? Right outside of New Orleans on the other side of the bridge. Um yeah, we were like 40 minutes from New Orleans.

Kim Moser 1:37:36

So we get it's one of my favorite cities in the whole wide world.

Tim Nealon 1:37:40

Why?

Kim Moser 1:37:42

Because it feels haunted. No, literally, you're walking around New Orleans and like just that thick, heavy mist and the architecture and cancer, by the way. It all just like sucks me in.

Tim Nealon 1:37:57

When I first I when I first moved to New Orle uh Louisiana, actually, I lived in right at the edge of the French quarter for two years. Um, and I will say that until it got because I'm not a people person, like I I I like persons, like I'm enjoying our conversation. I'm sure I would enjoy, you know, hanging out with you in person at Paracon next year and chatting. But like as a whole, I don't like people. Like I I kind of like to be left alone. I like my own space. That's not very uh that doesn't happen when you live right on the edge of the French quarter. So, but what I do remember like the first six months to a year there, like it was really incredible to be able to walk around and see these buildings and and you know, then you're like, oh well, what happened here and who lived here? And then then you start going down all these rabbit holes, and then then you finally get access to investigate a lot of these places, and it just becomes this this other world. So I do I I I said why, like when you're like, I love New Orleans, like as if I didn't understand. But when I first moved to New Orleans, I I really did love it. But it was just the people and the drunks and the pervs.

Kim Moser 1:38:55

There's there's a lot of that for sure. I mean, I won't. I don't see the beauty past that.

Tim Nealon 1:38:59

I mean, at one point somebody took a real shit, like a people shit on my front shit, yeah. A people shit. It wasn't a dog, this is a person, and they shit on my front stoop thing. I'm like, for God's sakes. Yeah, like yeah, people do that all the time.

Carter Simoneaux 1:39:14

It builds character, Tim.

Amy Murphy 1:39:16

Yeah, it's that shows true grit.

Tim Nealon 1:39:20

Yeah. I mean we're gritty down here. I mean, no, you guys are dirty because there was no toilet paper there. That means somebody took a shit right in front of my house and didn't even wipe their ass. It's probably a tourist, they had no bidet. Like, so it so it wasn't even the fact that there was a shit on my porch. Then you have to like start thinking about it and like putting yourselves in like the mind of the person who did this. So, like it just I don't know. But no, I New Orleans is really cool. Why are we talking about this again? Oh, because you have guys have great weather in Canada all the time. Um, but that's that's what I was describing, like the feeling of like all the ghosts now. So that's what you're talking about. Like, I kind of like the idea of like a lot of them being around. It's uh it's like they they make things fun. Like, I don't think that I have anything terribly negative around me, at least not anymore. You know, they're just like fun to talk to. Like I can put my voice recorder on in my headphones, and like the the they talk to me all the time, and um it it it sounds like I'm I'm either making this up or bragging. I'm not doing either, it's just factual. Like I get EVPs like non-stop on my voice recorder, but the moment I hand it to somebody else, like they just stop. So for me, it's like fun. I'll lay in bed, you know, at least until my my wife comes to bed, like when she's showering or whatever, getting ready for bed, because it you know how it is, it takes you guys 20 minutes, takes me 30 seconds. I'll lay in bed, you know, have my voice recorder and like have conversations with them sometimes. And that's that's interesting and fun to me. And I it's kind of like, you know, I want more of that. Um, but especially now that my wife's used to it. Like when she first moved in, she was not used to it. Funny enough, you mentioned butts. Um they enjoy touching her butt, which to me, I'm like, well, of course, like you have a great ass. Like, you know, um, like I want to touch your butt all the time too. Um but I I d I don't but I don't know that uh I don't know that I turn it off. I I think maybe I just ignore it. Like if I don't want to deal with it in that moment, like I'm just I just get so absorbed in something else that even if something was going on around me, I don't even notice it. Um I don't have a switch. I don't know. I don't know where I'm going with this, but I do like the idea of having lots of ghosts in my house that they keep things fun.

Kim Moser 1:41:30

I'm the same way. Like my partner and I are in the midst of like looking at buying a house and on our little checklist of things that we want is haunted. Like we want it to be haunted.

Tim Nealon 1:41:38

Yeah.

Kim Moser 1:41:39

We're we want it to have ghosts. Like I want my ghosts that are with me now, my spirits to follow me there. I hope they do.

Tim Nealon 1:41:47

Did you not have a lot of friends growing up? And I mean that like in a nice way, because I'm curious. Like, because I did not, and I've often wondered. It's like, why do I enjoy having these these things around me so much? And then I look back at my life, I'm like, well, I've always had a hard time making friends. I've never had a lot of friends, you know. Like maybe it's like comforting a way to like have.

Kim Moser 1:42:05

Yeah, I feel like I've always had a smaller group of friends for sure. Just like I've always only had like three or four friends at a time. It's too much to manage.

Tim Nealon 1:42:14

Yeah, friends are annoying because they want to do shit. That's the worst part about friends.

Kim Moser 1:42:18

I know, like we talk to dead people all the time.

unknown 1:42:21

Yeah.

Carter Simoneaux 1:42:22

What do you say, Clara? They ask you to ask you to help you move.

Tim Nealon 1:42:25

Oh yeah. Well, I'm not even talking about that. Like, like I I so Chelsea, you're you and I are very similar in that regard. I I do have friends, but like two, maybe three at a time. Um but like I was actually being honest though, like I like they they'll do things like, hey, you want to go do something? I hate that. Like, like don't ask me to do anything. I don't want to do anything. Um I mean they're working.

Kim Moser 1:42:51

There's like a very small window of opportunity. Yeah. You know, like I want to do something like between this hour and this hour, but if you catch me after that, like I'm good. I don't want to.

Tim Nealon 1:43:00

Yeah, like like I totally understand. It and and that transfers to many other areas of your life as well, I bet. So, like, like at home, like right now I get most of my groceries delivered to my house, so I don't have to go to a grocery store. I don't know if you guys have that kind of technology in Canada or or not, but um like it shows up on like a caribou or something. Um but like before it was like like if if I wanted to do something, it would have to be right now. Because if I like so I would go to my wife and I'd be like, yo, hey, you mentioned going to the grocery store earlier. Are you ready? And she's like, No, it's gonna take me five minutes. I'm like, well then forget it. But it wasn't because I was being mean, it was like literally in that exact moment I felt like I could go do something, but like in five minutes, I can't, like, no, I I can't do it. So that makes it very hard to have friends because they would like, hey, you want to like be my friend? And I'm like, nah, not right now. Um, like I I can't do friend stuff right now. Like, um, anyways, I don't know. I'm a horrible person.

Kim Moser 1:44:01

I relate to that, so I got you.

Tim Nealon 1:44:02

So I I know that you mentioned you're working on a couple

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Tim Nealon 1:44:05

TV shows. You got the bakery one going on with the donuts and the bear claws. Um like in Canada, do you call bear claws bear claws? Because you guys have a lot of bears, so are are they beaver tails?

Kim Moser 1:44:18

Like what's a bear claw? Beaver tails?

Tim Nealon 1:44:20

Wait, are you being serious? What's a bear claw?

Kim Moser 1:44:22

Yeah, like I think of the bear claw like a yeah, I don't know what it is.

Amy Murphy 1:44:25

Well, but are you talking about beaver tails, like the pastry that's like a big tail and you put ice cream and stuff on it?

Tim Nealon 1:44:33

No, you guys are calling them bear cold? Um, I don't know what the fuck a big wait, are you are you like pulling my leg right now?

Amy Murphy 1:44:40

No, no, we're not pulling your legs. We call like it's a dessert called a beaver tail. Okay. It's like it's a pastry, it's very flat, right? And it's yummy. Okay, and you can put like Nutella and like, you know, caramel, whipped cream, ice cream, and it's like really yummy dessert. Is that like your version of a bear claw?

Tim Nealon 1:45:00

No, that is not a bear claw.

Amy Murphy 1:45:02

No, it's a bear claw that we don't understand.

Tim Nealon 1:45:03

It's like it's like a cinnamon treat that kind of looks like a smashed-out cinnamon roll, but it doesn't usually have icing on it.

Kim Moser 1:45:11

Oh, I've never heard of this sounds really good.

Tim Nealon 1:45:15

But I figured like in Canada, because you have guys have a lot of bear that maybe they weren't called bear claws, but you guys don't even know what a fucking bear claw is. Um next time you're in America, you're gonna have to try a bear claw. Um Okay. And when I come up to Canada, swan at Paracon. Yeah, we could totally do that. They have them at Sheets. Well, actually, out there they have Wawa. Um what was I gonna say? And then if I'm ever allowed into Canada, I don't actually know if I'm allowed in Canada or not. Um, but if I'm ever up there and we're visiting, I would like to try one. I don't even that just sounds dirty saying it. One of your beaver tails.

Kim Moser 1:45:50

It does, doesn't it? Just say it. Just do it.

Tim Nealon 1:45:52

I want to try one of your beaver tails. Um it's like horrible. Um why don't you I want to try one of Canada's beaver tails? Not all right, we all know what I'm trying to say here. Um so you got the bakery thing going on, you're gonna start recording your ghost show here in about two weeks. Um I almost say that like as if that's not a lot that's going on, but like do you guys have anything else going on? Like, what are you what are the next six weeks?

Amy Murphy 1:46:18

Another show after that, another recording show after that called Chef's Kiss.

Tim Nealon 1:46:22

Really?

Amy Murphy 1:46:23

Yeah, Kim directs that one. You do the camera for that. I host that one too.

Tim Nealon 1:46:27

Right. So Chef's Kiss, is it like uh is it a Canadian show? Okay, so we're building.

Kim Moser 1:46:35

So we invite different chefs to uh this beautiful old historic log cabin lodge, right? And we feature a different chef every episode, and they bring their specialties to Amy, and she gets to try all the amazing food. But then, you know, as soon as we cut the cameras, we all dive in like seagulls, and we all eat the food too.

Tim Nealon 1:46:57

I would absolutely do that. I was gonna say like seagulls. Like we see here in America, we'd say like vultures.

Kim Moser 1:47:03

See, I I was thinking vultures in my head.

Tim Nealon 1:47:05

Yeah, but then she pulls out the fucking seagulls. You and your ocean peaceful place. Um, so uh like as far as investigations and stuff, I imagine that you guys are still gonna, you're probably gonna be on the road for quite a bit if you have all these shows going on bakery show, ghost hunting show. Um, have you ever thought about combining them and doing haunted bakeries?

Amy Murphy 1:47:28

We've talked about that so much. Right? It would be cool. It's funny because a lot of the locations that we are at for the baking show, they're haunted, and then we go back and investigate them for the haunted show. So it's like a win-win.

Tim Nealon 1:47:42

Yeah, it should be haunted bakeries. Like we could be called though paranormal pastries.

Amy Murphy 1:47:48

Oh, we should like talk to Paul.

Tim Nealon 1:47:52

Phantom paste pastries. I almost said pasties. Umormal pasties.

Amy Murphy 1:47:57

No, that's a whole other show.

Tim Nealon 1:47:59

So we actually uh well no, so do you get do you do you know the guys from uh that show The Ghost Brothers We don't know them personally, but we know who they are. Oh yeah. So they're they're actually coming out to hang out here in the studio with us this weekend. And um one of the ideas that they brought up actually at or was did you and Paul bring this up?

Carter Simoneaux 1:48:21

Yeah, we brought it up.

Tim Nealon 1:48:22

Yeah, so Paul and Carter brought this up at Paracon, and now they're obsessed with this idea. They want to do an entire series about haunted strip clubs. Um so that's one of the things that we're gonna talk about while they're here is Paranormal pasties. That that's what got me. I was like, oh wait, that's right, the strip club idea. It's not gonna be like there's gonna be no like no nudity in it. Like I can't do that. Like it has to be like mostly kid friendly. But the idea of like a haunted historic strip club, right? Because they're they're from Atlanta, right? Yeah, and like apparently that's like the home of like their that the original strip club was there in the entire world, probably.

Carter Simoneaux 1:48:58

Um about that, but they aren't they do have some strip clubs in Atlanta, yeah. And they're haunted, specifically Magic City. What's that? They got good wings there. Oh. It's all about the wings. People people door dash their wings, they won't even go to the strip club. Really? Yeah, how do you know this? I I know things. I drink and I know things.

Tim Nealon 1:49:18

I'm a Tyrian Lannister. That's true. Carter is the master of obscure knowledge around here. Um, so all right, well, you got the the shows going on. Um, and I imagine that you're you're just busy in general. Like you guys mentioned, you know, Amy, you got a family. I haven't pride too much into your business, but it sounds like you guys all have relationships and all that other stuff going on to manage and stuff. What to? Um actually that brings me to one last question. You guys have all mentioned being in relationships. Like, what is what does your you know partner think of this crazy shit that you guys are doing all the time?

Kim Moser 1:49:51

And by the way My partner's so supportive. He's like he wants to have the experiences that I have on a regular basis. He's actually gone out and investigated and like put himself in some pretty scary situations so that he can have exposure, I guess. Um, he's super curious, but yeah, he he laughs because there are a lot of people that will be like, ah, that's crazy, or like, yeah, right, and don't believe it. Right. Um, and he's like, You've met Kim, like you know that she's not a fibber in that in that way. Um, and then when I when I get home and I'm like, I read all the comments and everyone's so mead. And he's like, Honey, sorry, that just uh chimed up there. I have it on Do Not Disturb, but you're fine.

Tim Nealon 1:50:35

Nothing we didn't see her.

Kim Moser 1:50:37

So he's like, he's like, honey, yeah, but they don't actually know you. So this is hilarious to me that they actually think you're crazy. And I'm like, thank you for being my support.

Tim Nealon 1:50:45

Right?

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Yeah.

Kim Moser 1:50:47

So I've been oh go ahead.

Tim Nealon 1:50:49

No, you go ahead. I mean, like so like how does your husband and kids think of mom, the mere scrying psychic medium ghost hunter, thrifter, um maker.

Amy Murphy 1:51:02

Like well, I've been with my husband for 30 something years, I think, since 1995. We've been together, um, so a really long time. So he knows I'm crazy. He married crazy. Um I it's funny because when I first got into you know the actual meets and bones of like investigating, uh, he didn't actually want to have anything to do with it. Like anytime we'd mention it or talk about it, he'd like walk out of the room. He's like, oh my gosh, she's crazy, she's crazy. Like he literally would like dismiss it all the time. And I felt like, oh, I can't really talk about it around him, like at first, right? But he's warmed up to it over the years, and he's has it had he sometimes has his own intuitions and uh he's wouldn't say he's a medium at all or anything, but I remind him, I'm like, Tim, like that's not a coincidence. Like just what you're thinking, like just remember these moments. And I think he's like kind of opening up a little bit to, you know, hmm, well, that is maybe not a coincidence, you know. He's he's warming up more, but he's very proud, very supportive. Um, you know, not just like the paranormal world, but all the other things that I do in my life too. He's always been my biggest cheerleader, biggest support in all aspects of my life, but the paranormal, he's warmed up too more so in the last little bit. And my kids, my oldest son, I have three kids. My oldest is very much like my husband, the skeptic. Everything's analytical scientific. He thinks he thinks I'm nuts, but he actually isn't pretty impressed with the views and stuff. He's like, Oh, I didn't know people actually watch this stuff you do. Like, thanks, Logan. But, anyways, he's like, Yeah, he's like very analytical. It's my middle son and my daughter, uh, my daughter especially, she's got she's got gifts. Um, and I took them on a ghost hunt one time and they loved it. My middle son loved using the equipment. My older son went to bed, was like, no, thank you. But my middle guy, he loved using the equipment. My daughter went under Sties, was asking all these questions. She was loving it. Like, she's a little spooky-boo. Um, but yeah, so my family does support me. Um, and like I said, my husband's warming up to it now. And I he's got he's got gifts. I know he does. They're in there too.

Tim Nealon 1:53:25

He's getting there. What about you, Chelsea? Does this ever impact your family dynamic?

Kim Moser 1:53:31

Well, when I'm not working TV, I run YouTube full-time, a paranormal channel with my fiance. Okay. Um, so our whole world is is the paranormal. The paranormal is actually what brought Lamar and I together as well. Like that's how we came together. And um, my parents are both very supportive. Lamar is extremely supportive of every of everything, sorry. Yeah, it's just my whole life is paranormal. So Lamar and I just do everything together and it's it's it's the perfect little duo.

Tim Nealon 1:54:01

You know, if people wanted to follow you guys, ladies, or or uh, you know, where could they find you? I know you mentioned, you know, YouTube, a couple of these other places, third eye paranormal, I'm assuming, is what you guys go by everywhere. Um, but is there one platform that you guys spend more time on that than others that you would encourage people to go look at?

Kim Moser 1:54:19

Yeah, I would say that we spend a lot of time reading and answering comments on Instagram. Um, we also spend quite a lot of time on TikTok as well. So you can find us on either platform at Third Eye Paranormal. We're just starting to get our Facebook up and running. So we're gradually putting some more content up there and gradually getting some more followers. And of course, we have a website as well. Um, we're often doing like local events and um the shows that we're on is uh Haunted Heart and Soul, which is on East Link, which is a cable provider in Canada.

Tim Nealon 1:54:57

Okay. Um, so for the four people that have East East Link, uh go check it out. Um I'm totally kidding. Can can they watch their the shows on YouTube or anything? Is it or is it strictly like a television or is it streaming too?

Kim Moser 1:55:12

So eventually the shows come on YouTube. It usually takes about a year or so, but then they then they find their way there. Yay, go YouTube.

Amy Murphy 1:55:21

We you can go to our website. Our website is thirdeparanormal.ca, and that has our bios, and it has, you know, everything is updated with events, current events that we've been at or going to, things like that. So our website's kind of like a main landing hub, and depending on where you like to go for social media, you can kind of disperse from there. So it's a good landing spot, is thirdeyeparanormal.ca.

Tim Nealon 1:55:45

All right, ladies. Well, it was really great having you guys on the podcast today. I really didn't know what to expect. You know, I I did some research into you guys obviously before we popped on the air. That's how I got your names right. Um, and I was really proud of myself for that too. Um But no, I I really appreciate you guys showing.

Kim Moser 1:56:00

Oh my gosh, the dead bell just went off to confirm we're proud of you too.

Tim Nealon 1:56:05

Uh, you shouldn't be. I'm gonna complete the generator. Um I'm gonna go home and play with lizards all night. Um not a euphemism. No, I literally have oh, I mentioned I have the reptile conservation center. Yeah. So I'm just gonna go home and play with it.

Kim Moser 1:56:18

Do you have a bearded dragon?

Tim Nealon 1:56:20

No, we only deal with critically endangered reptiles that like zoos can't even keep alive. So bearded dragons, you know, it's uh they're cool, they're great pets, but it's just um they're not endangered. So we you know we have our specialty. Kind of like you guys in the bakeries, me and endangered reptiles. So, Kim, Amy, and Chelsea, I really appreciate you guys joining us tonight. Until next time. Thanks, guys.

Kim Moser 1:56:46

Thank you.

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